Re: Anybody ever fool with a 300 six cylinder?

rmcomprandy August 3rd 2011, 1:28 pm

I found one site with a photo...
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2554655000056980693rARKXJ

IDT-572 August 3rd 2011, 2:10 pm

rmcomprandy wrote:I found one site with a photo...
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2554655000056980693rARKXJ

A 4 barrel Cleveland head really starts to work when you put it on top of a 50 cubic inch cylinder. Cool

dfree383 August 3rd 2011, 3:06 pm

Damn thats some neat stuff !!!

cool40 August 3rd 2011, 3:19 pm

IDT-572 wrote:Early model 300 have a windsor piston pin, newer ones have the same pin as a 400 m. If you find a 65or 66 you can put a 351 windsor piston in it and it will be zero deck. Then add a ported 240 head for some serious compression. I actually put a .100 dome set of Kieth blacks in one, and with the 240 head the compression (if I remember right was at about 15:1) we ran stock rods in it and turned it 7000 rpm in a 88 oliver tractor pulling a sled.

I ran a bunch of rod brg clearance and at the end of the season the rod brgs were trashed, but it stayed together. The big end of the rod was pinching at the parting line due to the big end stretching.

It ran a big flat tappet solid and three big up draft carbs running on a home made intake. one carb per two cylinders, with two 1/2 inch tubes connecting the outer two carbs to the center carb so it would idle off of the center one. the outer carbs had the butterflys shut and only opened via staged linkage to open them after the center one passed half throttle.

This thing ran like a raped ape................

John, I think that engine is still running and for sale.........................

snake.........have you tried every ford motor in a pulling tractor? Laughing

IDT-572 August 3rd 2011, 3:28 pm

Just about............. Cool

the Coug August 3rd 2011, 4:54 pm

Jon if I remember right I may have a vertex mag for a 300 ford on the shelf

DILLIGASDAVE August 3rd 2011, 7:08 pm

An 80-81 F-100 with a 300-6 I had years ago was surprisingly torquey & pulled an open trailer pretty good. I didn't expect that from a straight 6.

It did have a recurring problem though where certain rocker arms would start running dry & making noise because their pushrods kept getting clogged up with cooked oil sludge. At the time I just figured the problem was because the pushrods were getting cooked by the cylinder head exhaust passages. But I don't know for sure if that was the cause.

512Fairlane August 3rd 2011, 9:49 pm

My Dad has been racing 300 sixes for years. He runs a Jerico 4 speed behind his. Drill out the 7/16" flywheel bolts and replace with 1/2". Use lots of loctite when assembling. He runs an aluminum small block Ford flywheel, 351 windsor pistons, mild solid lifter cam, 460 roller rockers (early heads use 351 windsor rockers), home made plenum intake with 2 holley 450 two barrels. He used to run 3 down draft webers but they were inconsistent and expensive to tune. Current combination went 11.40's in his Anglia but low 12's in his current Falcon. He was going to bring it to the bash but its too hot for him. Here are a few pics. Blake's description of "pissed off bumble bee" is correct. You know when he is making a pass.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/512fairlane/sets/72157627227395357/

rmcomprandy August 3rd 2011, 10:58 pm

dfree383 wrote:Damn thats some neat stuff !!!

In the 70's, going to MILAN for a regular weekend race was almost like going to a National Points Meet.
The competition was fierce, everywhere.

jbozzelle August 4th 2011, 10:32 am

Guys. This is all cool stuff about these engines. I guess the head bolt patterns ar ethe same from the W/C family to the 300?

Mark460 August 4th 2011, 5:27 pm

Check out www.fordsix.com for a good forum.

Also, I know a guy building a really bastardized 300. He cut and welded a couple LS1 type of heads together. I would rather use a Cleveland head, but it is still interesting. I need to see if he got the thing running yet.

Anybody ever fool with a 300 six cylinder? - Page 2 300

Anybody ever fool with a 300 six cylinder? - Page 2 300

Anybody ever fool with a 300 six cylinder? - Page 2 300a

IDT-572 August 4th 2011, 5:31 pm

Mark460 wrote:Check out www.fordsix.com for a good forum.

Also, I know a guy building a really bastardized 300. He cut and welded a couple LS1 type of heads together. I would rather use a Cleveland head, but it is still interesting. I need to see if he got the thing running yet.

Heck the Ls1 in a copy of a ford engine, it should work just as easy as the cleveland. Rolling Eyes

Amazes me all the things the Chubby guys used to say was bad about the fords is now on their precious LS-1 Laughing

512Fairlane August 4th 2011, 11:34 pm

I can't believe it. Dad was just looking at doing that very same thing this past winter. The LS1 head has very close bore spacing. Unlike the Cleveland heads and other small blocks the intake and exhaust valves are in the correct order so you don't have to come up with a reversed cam profile. And those heads are damn cheap. I can't think of a better thing to do than cut one up into pieces to make a Ford run. You can't get an aluminum head for a 6 any cheaper.

johndickjr August 5th 2011, 9:58 am

g-pa had one in his 63 falcon...ported big valve 240 head..3 -2 setup...magneto..4 speed...13-1 pistons..o-ring block..racer brown solid roller cam---ran 10.70's..my friend charlie has one in his 60 falcon now..flat top ..ported 240 head..single 750 carb..c4..runs 12.00-12.20 range

here is a pic of charlies car

Anybody ever fool with a 300 six cylinder? - Page 2 1961falcon

Anybody ever fool with a 300 six cylinder? - Page 2 1961falcon

IDT-572 August 5th 2011, 9:59 am

johndickjr wrote:g-pa had one in his 63 falcon...ported big valve 240 head..3 -2 setup...magneto..4 speed...13-1 pistons..o-ring block..racer brown solid roller cam---ran 10.70's..my friend charlie has one in his 60 falcon now..flat top ..ported 240 head..single 750 carb..c4..runs 12.00-12.20 range

here is a pic of charlies car

300 had to be a tight fit in the falcoon...................

johndickjr August 5th 2011, 10:06 am

think he moved the radiator forward as much as he could ..there is only maybe 1 inch or less of room still..;its a fun car to take out..gets lots of attention, g-pa built the header and the intake for this car,

512Fairlane August 7th 2011, 4:36 pm

Do you have any more pics of the head swap? How well do the push rods line up? Any other major issues with this swap. We are considering it as a winter project.

C_andy460 August 10th 2011, 3:01 am

There's are Maverick in this months Car Craft that has a 100,000+ mile all stock motor with a turbo using a Offy intake and a blow throw 750 Holley and he is going 10.90's at 120 mph.
Andy

dfree383 August 10th 2011, 7:11 am

Post a link to that one.

Doug Rahn August 12th 2011, 6:31 pm

Man does this thread bring up some old memories! Back in the day (early seventies) my older brother use to race in the Hobby Class at the Savannah Raceway 1/2 mile asphalt track. The 300 six was the engine of choice back then and actually out numbered the Chevys. We use to have tons of parts for them, but long gone now. The rods were a weak point but with seven main bearings to support the crankshaft they were almost indestructible. Like was said when they are turning high it sounded like and angry bee, 12 or 15 of then going around a banked track was a treat to watch. What's really sad Sad

is that track is now a big hole in the ground filled with water, the now closed old Savannah Dragway was right next door.

BOSS 429 August 14th 2011, 11:52 am

Im involved with a 300 that my freind installed in his 65 mustang, and its now turbo charged,with t5 trans. should be fun when ALL THE BUGS ARE WORKED OUT.Right now it runs and drives pretty good

-R

bigblok2000ranger August 14th 2011, 11:57 am

They can make pretty good power there is a guy that runs Pro-eliminitor at my track with an early 60's wagon with a 300 and running mid 12's.

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Anybody ever fool with a 300 six cylinder?