Trans wont turn when tight...
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Trans wont turn when tight...
Well I put the c6 in, the engine would turn over freely but now it wont budge. I loosened the bellhousing bolts up and then it would turn over fine. I did this with the converter tightened and loosened. I don't know what could be causing this. I know that on the old flexplate there was a ring that all the flexplate bolts go through. I put that on, on the trans side of the plate. Is it possibly supposed to go on the engine side? Any help would be greatly appreciated
bb429power- Posts : 3129
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
It almost sounds like you don't have the converter fully "seated" in the trans pump.
QtrWarrior- Posts : 2702
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
QtrWarrior wrote:It almost sounds like you don't have the converter fully "seated" in the trans pump.
X2
f250mike- Posts : 628
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
When I put the converter on the trans I spun it a bunch and it went in all the way, I'm 100% sure it did... BUT now you got me thinking, maybe it popped out a lil when we lifted the trans and put it up to the engine. I will have to check, probably tomorrow
bb429power- Posts : 3129
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
Justin measure from the face of the bellhousing to the mounting pad on the converter.
You need approx 1 1/8" in between.
If it doesn't measure right, your converter isn't in the pump.
Does your converter have 7/16" studs?
If so did you drill the flexplate holes out?
mike
You need approx 1 1/8" in between.
If it doesn't measure right, your converter isn't in the pump.
Does your converter have 7/16" studs?
If so did you drill the flexplate holes out?
mike
f250mike- Posts : 628
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
Mike, I'll check.... and the converters studs all went through the flexplate with ease...
bb429power- Posts : 3129
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It looks like your going to pull the trans out.
On a good note, there's lots of room under our trucks .
You should be able to slide it back a couple inches to get at the converter.
On a good note, there's lots of room under our trucks .
You should be able to slide it back a couple inches to get at the converter.
f250mike- Posts : 628
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
Yep, that's my current plan haha. Well the cab is off so its even easier! So I'll pull it tomorrow and get back with yall on how it works out. I just got under it and tried to measure it and it was about 1 1/8" like you said, but I'm not sure if I measured the right part. Either way, its coming out
bb429power- Posts : 3129
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Okay here's what that bolt plate looks like
I have this on the trans side with the bolts pressing against the flexplate. Is that correct? I found another one I have from this truck, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't for the flexplate.
I have this on the trans side with the bolts pressing against the flexplate. Is that correct? I found another one I have from this truck, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't for the flexplate.
bb429power- Posts : 3129
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
Did you index the converter drain plug so it goes through the little extra hole in the flex plate?
dkp
dkp
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
bosshoss wrote:Did you index the converter drain plug so it goes through the little extra hole in the flex plate?
dkp
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
bosshoss wrote:Did you index the converter drain plug so it goes through the little extra hole in the flex plate?
dkp
The drain plugs (theres two) match up to the holes on the flexplate, without hitting them.
bb429power- Posts : 3129
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
1) Make sure the distance from the face of the trans to the converter pads is greater than the distance from the back of the block to the flexplate. You always want to be able to "pull" the converter forward into the engine about 3/8" max.
2) Did you make sure the converter seated fully in the back of the crank pilot. I always test fit the converter into the flexplate and pilot. Maybe your converter fell a bit and is not fully seated in the pilot. I've had that happen before...
3) Make sure the converter drain plugs are lined up too.
2) Did you make sure the converter seated fully in the back of the crank pilot. I always test fit the converter into the flexplate and pilot. Maybe your converter fell a bit and is not fully seated in the pilot. I've had that happen before...
3) Make sure the converter drain plugs are lined up too.
jbozzelle- Posts : 3705
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
I checked it on the engine before I filled it with fluid, it fit fine. I can't really see if its seated right now though and it may not be. The drain plugs line up to the holes. And I will have to check the 1st thing you listed.
bb429power- Posts : 3129
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
bb429power wrote:When I put the converter on the trans I spun it a bunch and it went in all the way, I'm 100% sure it did... BUT now you got me thinking, maybe it popped out a lil when we lifted the trans and put it up to the engine.
I will have to check, probably tomorrow
Should be able to feel 3 distinct steps as the converter seats in the pump
crittersf1- Posts : 521
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
Hey Justin get your current issue figured out but don't bolt it back together!!!
I just talked with bob and you have converter heading your way.
I sent a PM requesting your address.
Have a good day
mike
I just talked with bob and you have converter heading your way.
I sent a PM requesting your address.
Have a good day
mike
f250mike- Posts : 628
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
after the trans is bolted up you should have to pull the converter up to the flywheel...if there is no slack you got issues............
richter69- Posts : 13649
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
Mike you got a pm...
I felt it go in farther 3 different times as I spun it, I think it popped out a little sometime between the ground, and lifting it over the frame and bolting it to the engine. The converter didn't seem to slide towards the engine when I tightened it, it wanted to pull the flaxplate toward itself. I'll find out soon enough...
I felt it go in farther 3 different times as I spun it, I think it popped out a little sometime between the ground, and lifting it over the frame and bolting it to the engine. The converter didn't seem to slide towards the engine when I tightened it, it wanted to pull the flaxplate toward itself. I'll find out soon enough...
bb429power- Posts : 3129
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
[quote="richter69"]after the trans is bolted up you should have to pull the converter up to the flywheel...if there is no slack you got issues............ [/quote
X2 A good rule of thumb is 1/8 to 1/16 flywheel to converter clearance after all bell housing bolts are in and tight.
X2 A good rule of thumb is 1/8 to 1/16 flywheel to converter clearance after all bell housing bolts are in and tight.
whitefield- Posts : 2244
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
bb429power wrote:................it wanted to pull the flaxplate toward itself....
This tells me that the convertr pilot is not engaging properly in the crankshaft. Maybe it fits, but the crank is not deep enough...
jbozzelle- Posts : 3705
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
what konda converter? factory stock? i've had all kinds of issues with most converters.done some halfass shit before just to use a converter too. what flex plate too?
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
justin as soon as i get to town, bank, and post office that converter is coming for you! lol, bobn
zbob- Posts : 271
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
That, and possibly that ring that the bolts go through is supposed to space the flexplate towards the converter more??? I think its more of a converter issue though...jbozzelle wrote:bb429power wrote:................it wanted to pull the flaxplate toward itself....
This tells me that the convertr pilot is not engaging properly in the crankshaft. Maybe it fits, but the crank is not deep enough...
bb429power- Posts : 3129
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
It was already on it. Its blue like Ford blue but looks new and has a sticker on it that says "Quality RPM Assurance" This is a SFI certified Scat flexplatecool40 wrote:what konda converter? factory stock? i've had all kinds of issues with most converters.done some halfass shit before just to use a converter too. what flex plate too?
bb429power- Posts : 3129
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Re: Trans wont turn when tight...
Thank you so much man, I told Mike how much I appreciate this. Because I have like no cash, and I was really bummed out that I wasn't able to get a good converter and had to put the old one in it. And I like to do things the right way the first timezbob wrote:justin as soon as i get to town, bank, and post office that converter is coming for you! lol, bobn
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