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Using 4wd for drag strip launch on a '77

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Post  77f150 January 12th 2013, 10:01 pm

I'm fixing the last point of frustration this spring by changing the rad (dropping in a Super Cooler from JBG) and hope to get to the track for some test and tunes in the summer. I've always used 2wd for runs because when I used to drive the truck in the winter and was on dry pavement you would get a loud bang once in a while from drivetrain bind, no problem when you have some slippage. I see the diesel guys use 4wd but they don't have my old style transfer case.

Would trying a 4wd launch be safe (not withstanding normal drivetrain abuse)?

Would a spool in the Dana 44 work alright? The rear is already spooled, the truck would only have the front hubs engaged at the track.

Thanks for you thoughts and help.
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Post  Mark Miller January 13th 2013, 12:36 am

I'm guessing you're talking about drag racing on pavement?If so im sure the guys with the Diesels shut the 4WD off before they turn onto the return road.I have a 2011 F-150 Supercab 4X4 with EcoBoost V-6 and 3.55LS rear.My local track i ran a 14.68 at 93.7 mph launching in 2wd.I went to a different track and couldn't hook for crap in 2wd.I then put it into 4WD high and ran a 14.67 at 93.4 mph and shut the 4wd off before i turned onto the return road.With yours being the old transfer case i don't know if i would try it.IMO your best bet would be to get sticky tires for the back and some Cal-Trac bars and leave in 2wd.

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Post  bbf-falcon January 13th 2013, 7:40 am

X2 what Mark said. Smile

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Post  J.Toney January 13th 2013, 9:54 am

I don't know about the spool, but I'd try it out out a couple of low speed shakedown runs. I'd bet, worst case will be some vibration. You'll be the first to know Very Happy
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Post  ThndrChkn January 13th 2013, 1:33 pm

I never tried it on a dragstrip, but that was the only way I could get my 86 F150 Supercab street truck to hook on the bottle. 2wd was not an option at all on the street tires anyway. If I left on a 200HP hit in 4wd, @ 5600# it would MPH almost as good as the Banana in the 1/8. I had a 205 transfer case in it, and as long as I let it slow down a bit, all I had to do is bump the throttle and pop it back into 2wd. Never had an issue. But, 1 track here won't let 4wd's make a pass unless they're in 2wd only. But they're a bunch of chevy lovers anyway.
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Post  77f150 January 13th 2013, 5:12 pm

Thank-you for the replies, your opinions are valued. I omitted that yes it's pavement I would be running on. I have ladder bars so wheel hop is not an issue but I normally run 35's and with the 4.11 gears I'll need 32's in slicks so I'm not into the red at the end of the track. Doug, thank-you for the info. I twin sticked the transfer case if I ever twisted the rear driveshaft (fail safe to get home), so I have the option of popping the front axle into neutral before turning. Bind with the gear driven transfer case was my biggest concern but if you tried it successfully then I might give it a try. I'll be leaving with a 180HP hit.
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Post  IDIeselman January 14th 2013, 2:06 pm

Just a Doug said, a little blip of the throttle and the TC will slide right back in two wheel, been doing it for years on asphalt and anything else I needed to hook up on. I would have no concerns at all about the 205 but be sure to have quality joints and a balanced front shaft or things tend to get ugly fast. I do advise you make a good safety loop for the shaft paying close attention to the TC side as they have a tendancy to destroy transmissions and come through the floor pan nipping at your feet when they let go at high speed
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Post  Old blue Racin Team January 14th 2013, 7:38 pm

IDIeselman wrote:Just a Doug said, a little blip of the throttle and the TC will slide right back in two wheel, been doing it for years on asphalt and anything else I needed to hook up on. I would have no concerns at all about the 205 but be sure to have quality joints and a balanced front shaft or things tend to get ugly fast. I do advise you make a good safety loop for the shaft paying close attention to the TC side as they have a tendancy to destroy transmissions and come through the floor pan nipping at your feet when they let go at high speed

I had a driveshaft crack a transmission this year, and put a hole in the floor board, I wouldnt put a spool in the front axle though, if one side hook's and the other dont it's gonna yank you into the wall, also if you break a axle shaft it will yank you into the wall, with a open front the worst that will happen is the front quits pulling
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Post  dfree383 January 22nd 2013, 3:39 am

I was just talking with a guy in my class at the Frank Hawley school, he's running a GM Duramax 4x4 in the 9.40's and using four wheel drive to get there...... Said the truck leaves with the driver side front wheel off the ground @ 6000+ Lbs
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Post  77f150 January 22nd 2013, 8:27 pm

IDIeselman wrote:Just a Doug said, a little blip of the throttle and the TC will slide right back in two wheel, been doing it for years on asphalt and anything else I needed to hook up on. I would have no concerns at all about the 205 but be sure to have quality joints and a balanced front shaft or things tend to get ugly fast. I do advise you make a good safety loop for the shaft paying close attention to the TC side as they have a tendancy to destroy transmissions and come through the floor pan nipping at your feet when they let go at high speed
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Thank-you, I'll get a driveshaft hoop built for the front first thing in the spring. Tight spot to work with, anyone have some pics of theirs? I could build one off the front axle like I did for the rear:

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