God bless the good ol 7.3 powerstroke lol !!! Maybe Fabio will explain this

6.9 for the win......

Keep in mind I did a lot of the 6.4 prototype up to launch.
Did 6.0 opd ( on going product development)

6.9 is nothing but a 7.3. No turbo mfi

blown86hallet wrote:Keep in mind I did a lot of the 6.4 prototype up to launch.
Did 6.0 opd ( on going product development)

sounds like you need to back to the drawing board on most of these engines ...... this 3.5 could have used another year of field testing instead of spending all that bs money on doing 1000 laps at the oval track ...just saying

I said it earlier. GTDI, ( gas turbo direct injection) I feel more real world testing should have been done. Lots of little issues got away and should not have.

To bad they were not ford engines. Hands tied on the lay out of them

blown86hallet wrote:6.9 is nothing but a 7.3. No turbo mfi

yes, 6.9 is more old school.

blown86hallet wrote:Len.. Let Bruno know what I was doing in Naples Florida.

I suspect that Adam may have been the 1st person to have R & R a 6.7L turbo that had 90,000 or more miles on it in the field. Relative to the Naples thing.....he had told me that Ford was flying him all over the country replacing the 6.7 turbos...which I incorrectly assumed was that they were defective units. Ford had several test 'mules' in fleets over the country in the older trucks.

The wife and I were in St. Pete Fl. several years ago and Adam was doing a R & R in Naples and cruised up to St Pete, spent less than an hour before he had to get on the road but, I learned that the turbos were not failed....Ford wanted to send the units to the suppliers to evaluate.

Fabio...you may be the winner of this competition but you aint got a paper tiger.

pulled it straight off the bench after he flew in I bet.........


paper tiger dont fix broke stuff........

Im just a dumb hick mechanic with a rag hangin out of my pocket, i hate school and always have...... hell i got some bs hybrid web courses i gotta do to keep ny elec cert current........ funny thing is ill never touch one!

bump for a good read.......

I will stick with my 1993 7.3 no turdo to go out ,it pulls my 24' shadow fine and it is payed for. Just don't get behind me I will be laying down the black smoke with the hammer down.

I picked up an old 7.3 dually the other day w/injection pump mounted up front like the old 6.9.Need a pump for it by the way.Has a C6 behind it w/aftermarket o/d unit attached to back .

Damn!

You guys need to stop bench racing your penises in this thread...

and the winner is ????

JOHN, with the gay comment!

blown86hallet wrote:To bad they were not ford engines. Hands tied on the lay out of them

then who the hell built that heap...? all this new shit runs great for the first 50k miles after that all the stupid issues,inter coolers,the cooked cats,def pumps,def sending units,turbos,short blocks,long blocks,now just replace the valves w no attention to the valve seat...WTF? 6.2L for the win !!!!

richter69 wrote:

torino501 wrote:damn fabio... tell us how you really feel. couldnt have said it any better my self though. since this was a clean sheet of paper design i would say they pretty much suck. i have no faith in the high pressure pump design at all. latest tsb just came out on these damn things,if they run rough during regen replace exhaust valves on the left cyl head only...? wtf....? no valve job just put valves and seals on it. at a piss poor flag hr..

how many exh valves you put on a 7.3? or even 6.o 6.4?

i know man....?

blown86hallet wrote:and the winner is ????

JOHN, with the gay comment!

I don't swing that way...

BTW, you coming to KY next weekend and bringing some nice looking lady friends again?

jbozzelle wrote:

blown86hallet wrote:and the winner is ????

JOHN, with the gay comment!

I don't swing that way...

BTW, you coming to KY next weekend and bringing some nice looking lady friends again?

i was just in Louisville Ky last wekend for work, and the DURBY.

Sunday going back down for some more up-dates and a job position at Kentucky truck plant.

The following weekend?> What race is this? where at? Boat racing?

PUT a 6.7 in the boat for the WIN !!! thing would be a rocket !!!

5pointslow wrote:PUT a 6.7 in the boat for the WIN !!! thing would be a rocket !!!

check engine light would come on, reduced power..............

5pointslow wrote:PUT a 6.7 in the boat for the WIN !!! thing would be a rocket !!!

nope this will occur

TSB 11-12-14
Highlights from TSB:

Issue: Some F-Super Duty F-250-450 pickuptruckvehicles equipped with a 6.7L diesel engine may experience an engine shudder with or without turbo flutter noise around 900-1400 RPM with steady throttle. The issue may be more noticeable at high elevation, high ambient temperature and/or when driving up a slight incline. The concern is not present during regeneration or while using cruisecontrol. Some vehicles that exhibit the concern may set diagnostic trouble code (DTC) P0299.

Service Procedure: 1) Check all continuous memory diagnostic trouble codes (CMDTCs). Are any DTCs present other than the P0299?
Yes - This article does not apply, refer to Powertrain Control/Emission Diagnostic (PC/ED) Manual and continue with normal diagnostics.
No - Proceed to Step 2.
2) Using the IDS, take a recording of the event. Enter data logger and select the following pids:
MAP_A (psi), MAF_A (g/s), EBP (psi)
RPM, APP1 (%), VGTDC (%)
EGRTP_CMD (%)
DPF_REGEN_STAT
3) Road test vehicle and duplicate the concern.
4) Make a recording of the event.
5) Review the recording taken and compare it to figure one located and the end of the article. Does the recording show MAF_A fluctuation with APP1 steady like the figure provided?
Yes - Replace the turbocharger. Refer to WSM section 303-04D.
No - This article does not apply, refer to PC/ED for normal diagnostics.

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TSB 12-5-12

ISSUE:

Some 2011-2012 F-Super Duty vehicles equipped with a 6.7L engine and built on or before 5/15/2012 may exhibit diagnostic trouble code (DTC) P0181. Refer to the Calibration Content for additional calibration updates.

ACTION:

Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.

SERVICE PROCEDURE


Please run Oasis using the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) to search for open Field Service Actions (FSA) and claim reprogramming updates against open FSA's when applicable. The latest level includes all previous enhancements released in prior calibration levels.

Reprogram the powertrain control module (PCM) and the transmission control module (TCM) to the latest calibration using IDS release 79.01 and higher. This new calibration is not included in the VCM 2012.5 DVD. Calibration files may also be obtained at Buy Motorcraft Parts Online | Official Motorcraft Auto Parts Site | FordParts.com.

NOTE: PLEASE ADVISE THE CUSTOMER THAT THIS VEHICLE IS EQUIPPED WITH AN ADAPTIVE TRANSMISSION SHIFT STRATEGY WHICH ALLOWS THE VEHICLE'S COMPUTER TO LEARN THE TRANSMISSION'S UNIQUE PARAMETERS AND IMPROVE SHIFT QUALITY. WHEN THE ADAPTIVE STRATEGY IS RESET, THE COMPUTER WILL BEGIN A RE-LEARNING PROCESS. THIS RE-LEARNING PROCESS MAY RESULT IN FIRMER THAN NORMAL UPSHIFTS AND DOWNSHIFTS FOR SEVERAL DAYS.

The Calibration Update Contains Improvement Actions And Enhancements To Address The Following:


False DTC P0181 (fuel temperature sensor A circuit range/performance)
Previously Released - Calibration Content


Included in IDS software release 74.03 and higher contained improvement actions and enhancements to address the following:

Calibration Content - Pick Up Truck (non-chassis cab) Vehicles Built On Or Before 3/7/2012


Runs rough/misfire during diesel particulate filter (DPF) regeneration
Calibration Content - Vehicles Built On Or Before 7/25/2011


False DTC P0884 (PCM/TCM power input signal intermittent)
Calibration Content - Vehicles Built On Or Before 5/31/2010


DTC P0134 O2 sensor circuit no activity detected (bank 1, sensor 1)
Calibration Content - Vehicles Built On Or Before 4/11/2010


DTC P0401 (exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) flow insufficient detected)
DTC P0402 (exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) flow excessive detected)
DTC P009A (intake air temperature/ambient air temperature correlation) if driven at highway speeds with a snow plow attached
Harsh/inconsistent transmission shifting during transmission fluid warm up
Improved shift feel for tip-in events at low speed or when coming to a stop
Calibration Content - Vehicles Built On Or Before 11/5/2010


Delayed manual upshifts from 1st to 2nd gear when in Select Shift mode while going down a grade
Harsh/delayed 1-2 upshift and downshift
DEF warning messages won't reset after refilling DEF tank with Key On Engine Running
Modified vehicles for rail applications, that will not re-engage PTO operation or speedometer inoperative after riding on the tracks with the front wheels off the ground
VSOUT signal inoperable from customer access circuits under dash
DTC P2463 or P246C (DPF restriction) and DTC P2459 (DPF regeneration frequency) - adds increased ability to perform manual regeneration at higher load values when performing system diagnostics
Calibration Content - Vehicles Built On Or Before 08/23/2010


False DTC P132B (turbocharger/supercharger boost control A performance)
False DTC P0299 (turbocharger/supercharger A under-boost condition)
False DTC P050E (cold start engine exhaust temperature too low)
False DTC P06EA (NOX sensor processor performance (bank 1, sensor 1)
DTC P249C (SCR time to closed loop) - improved diagnostics and reporting
DTC P249F (excessive time to enter closed loop DPF regeneration control) - improved diagnostics and reporting
DTC(s) and freeze frame data being erased in the PCM when running KOEO, KOER, Datalogger, Active Commands or any other guided diagnostics with IDS
False P0731 (gear 1 incorrect ratio)
False P0732 (gear 2 incorrect ratio)
False P0733 (gear 3 incorrect ratio)
False P0734 (gear 4 incorrect ratio)
False P0735 (gear 5 incorrect ratio)
False P0729 (gear 6 incorrect ratio)
Low speed/load engine surge
Abrupt engine shutdown feel
HP fuel pump knocking noise at idle
Delayed DEF level indication after refill event
Harsh/bumpy transmission upshifts/downshifts
Delayed/harsh transmission engagement feel between R-D and D-R shifts
Transmission gear hunting during speed control operation when climbing grades or climbing hills, particularly while towing
Erratic transmission operation after descending grades while in 1st gear
Flashes/delays of current gear indication when using SelectShift mode
Added Brake Over Accelerator (BOA) feature - reduces engine power during off-idle driving when both the accelerator and brake pedals are applied simultaneously
Added SelectShift memory feature so the SelectShift gear display comes back on whenever going back into drive if the vehicle was turned off while SelectShift mode was still activated
Added engine protection feature from overspeed when descending long grades while towing and in manual gear ranges (forces transmission upshifts at 4000 RPM)
Increased torque - during hill assist operation - (see Owner Guide for additional system operation)
PTO operational enhancements - (applicable to vehicles equipped with optional PTO)
- Automatic secondary electronic idle controller (SEIC) turns on at engine start if the switch is in the on position

- Engine coolant temperature to operate PTO lowered to -7 °C (+20 °F)

- Improved RPM control with SEIC controllers

So... All of you that bag on ford, talk shit about them go fucking buy a fucking Toyota or better yet go race a bow tie!

the ones thst make money off them should be great full! But no bad mouth them so the whole world can read about it which will only make them purchase another brand of vehicle which will put you guys out of work!

Real smart!

I hope yall cell 20 million trucks, I need something to fix in the years to come...................


also works out for me when a guy is willing to spend $$$$$$ on an older one instead of trading the turd off for a newer one.........


Maybe Nick should trade both his newer ones in on an older one?

blown86hallet wrote:So... All of you that bag on ford, talk shit about them go fucking buy a fucking Toyota or better yet go race a bow tie!

the ones thst make money off them should be great full! But no bad mouth them so the whole world can read about it which will only make them purchase another brand of vehicle which will put you guys out of work!

Real smart!

lmao ...oh come on , im just busting your balls ...plus nobody looks at this site