June 2001 Issue of Car Craft Mag

I am only 1/16th as old as dirt. So I have a great variety of CAR CRAFT,HOT ROD, PHR, etc., 1987-early 2Ks.

I can't remember the company but they were building 580 hp 509 , 600 hp 540's and 775 hp 632 pump gas BBCs(Merlin Blocks).

Even with 9.1:1 CR shouldn't a 468 BBF exceed 581 hp and the hp made by the 632 couldn't it be matched by a 528 cid even with a stock block?

As I recall, the old Ford Motorsport 514 crate engine was advertised at 600 hp.....conservatively.

Have to also remember that the rags were notorious for a little exaggeration. They wanted to sell more magazines. So a 350 hp 454, that was already in everyone's driveway. Figure a majority of those soft load dyno numbers were exaggerated by 10% to 20%.

Always told, believe half of what you hear, and less of what you read. Every car rag out there, especially those shilling car parts for venders, have had "unique" dyno reports depending on part used....... bolt on intake x over y and gain this performance envelope. But they failed to mention had they optimized for Y with a better carb, or cam, or simply adjusted timing Y was really a better manifold for most buyers. etc.

Dark Horse of Apocalypse wrote:I am only 1/16th as old as dirt. So I have a great variety of CAR CRAFT,HOT ROD, PHR, etc., 1987-early 2Ks.

I can't remember the company but they were building 580 hp 509 , 600 hp 540's and 775 hp 632 pump gas BBCs(Merlin Blocks).

Even with 9.1:1 CR shouldn't a 468 BBF exceed 581 hp and the hp made by the 632 couldn't it be matched by a 528 cid even with a stock block?

You're compairing apples to oranges...... They are crate engines not specific build race engines. Let us know how much power you can make with a 9:1 iron headed engine....using out of the box parts and line type assembly that you can sell cheap......Please post your results.

Almost forgot. It needs to have a idiot proof warranty too.....

I've only had a handful of engines that had been on a dyno. Well hand full is a bit of an exageration, only 4. First hand experience for magazine embellishments, can't say that I have any because only 1 of my engines was ever in a mag albeit an internet mag. And then it was a copy of the dyno print.

I read your response as you feel as if I was attacking your engine builds. Definitely not. ..

I am sure there were a few embellished dyno numbers on a couple projects through time when the sum of parts didn't add up to expectations.

Doesn't hurt my feeler 1 bit... if chevy engine this; had to have more magazine hp than ford that. I'm not going to change my plans based on a magazine article.

dfree383 wrote:

Dark Horse of Apocalypse wrote:I am only 1/16th as old as dirt. So I have a great variety of CAR CRAFT,HOT ROD, PHR, etc., 1987-early 2Ks.

I can't remember the company but they were building 580 hp 509 , 600 hp 540's and 775 hp 632 pump gas BBCs(Merlin Blocks).

Even with 9.1:1 CR shouldn't a 468 BBF exceed 581 hp and the hp made by the 632 couldn't it be matched by a 528 cid even with a stock block?

You're compairing apples to oranges...... They are crate engines not specific build race engines. Let us know how much power you can make with a 9:1 iron headed engine....using out of the box parts and line type assembly that you can sell cheap......Please post your results.

Almost forgot.    It needs to have a idiot proof warranty too.....

So what you are saying is Crate Motors like any mass produced item will have compromises built in unlike custom built items built for a specific end user?

Dark Horse of Apocalypse wrote:

dfree383 wrote:

Dark Horse of Apocalypse wrote:I am only 1/16th as old as dirt. So I have a great variety of CAR CRAFT,HOT ROD, PHR, etc., 1987-early 2Ks.

I can't remember the company but they were building 580 hp 509 , 600 hp 540's and 775 hp 632 pump gas BBCs(Merlin Blocks).

Even with 9.1:1 CR shouldn't a 468 BBF exceed 581 hp and the hp made by the 632 couldn't it be matched by a 528 cid even with a stock block?

You're compairing apples to oranges...... They are crate engines not specific build race engines. Let us know how much power you can make with a 9:1 iron headed engine....using out of the box parts and line type assembly that you can sell cheap......Please post your results.

Almost forgot.    It needs to have a idiot proof warranty too.....

So what you are saying is Crate Motors like any mass produced item will have compromises built in unlike custom built items built for a specific end user?

yes