Engine Masters 2015

No mod motor/ls shoot out at engine masters.


http://www.enginelabs.com/news/amsoil-engine-masters-rules-released-ford-mod-motors-need-not-apply/

Too hard for the ford to be assembled with a common bottom end at the contest.

I'm not sure how the are going to pull it off with the Chevy either.... 8 contestants in a day with one short block?

I believe they each get their own shortblock to complete and compete with.

Day 3: LS Showdown. Teams will be given a spec short-block two days before the competition and they supply the cam, cylinder heads, induction and exhaust. No displacement factor.

Some interesting twists this year like the vintage engine class. I know the early hemi guys (Miller team) have their ears perked up.

I believe the article said Hemi's are not allowed in the vintage class. It seems pretty chickenshit not to let the Ford Mod's in the SB class also. They are going to have a LS, and Hemi only deals, but nothing for Ford Mod's to compete in. I bet if Chevy had 2 or 4 cam engines it would be OK?

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BigBlockRanger wrote:

Some interesting twists this year like the vintage engine class.  I know the early hemi guys (Miller team) have their ears perked up.

NO Hemi's allowed in the vintage class.

supervel45 wrote:I believe the article said Hemi's are not allowed in the vintage class. It seems pretty chickenshit not to let the Ford Mod's in the SB class also. They are going to have a LS, and Hemi only deals, but nothing for Ford Mod's to compete in. I bet if Chevy had 2 or 4 cam engines it would be OK?

 "Big Block" is simply designated by the cubic inches; an FE Ford, a Pontiac or a "B" Mopar is kind-of a medium block..

In the "Small Block Spec" class a big block Buick or Oldsmobile is legal, as long as it will meet the bore & stroke rules.

It is all about trying to provide a level playing field and not particularly allowing a certain engine which would have a distinct advantage.

The ENGINE MASTERS contest is about projecting the TALENT of the builder, not only their ability to select an engine with that obvious advantage.
It shows what can be done with a "hand of the cards you're dealt" and getting the most out of it.

rmcomprandy wrote:

BigBlockRanger wrote:

Some interesting twists this year like the vintage engine class.  I know the early hemi guys (Miller team) have their ears perked up.

NO Hemi's allowed in the vintage class.

I know. I should not have put those two sentences together. They were two totally independent thoughts in my head. lol

They were buzzing about the generational hemi thing.

I'd love to see someone build a 318poly based engine for the vintage class.

I get your point Randy. I still say they need a spot for the Mod motors if the Hemi's and the LS's each have a full day alotted to them. Maybe next year they can have a modern V-8 shootout instead of the Vintage class?

I saw a posting by Barry R, the FE builder that said GM supplied the short blocks for the LS deal and that Ford wouldn't supply short blocks for the Mod motors, I'm not sure if that's 100% factual of its just being thrown out there as an excuse to exclude the Mod motor.

If Barry said it,i'd say its a fact.

IMO, Ford could have supplied the engines, tools, parts, oil, coolant, clothing, breakfast, lunch, dinner, travel to and from the venue, the venue itself and still they would have been denied inclusion by some obnoxious rule or two. Face it, the world is slighted against anyone choosing a blue oval power plant. I believe it is all the more satisfying when someone builds a Ford based engine, takes the competitions best shot and comes out ahead.

BigBlockRanger wrote:


They were buzzing about the generational hemi thing.

I'd love to see someone build a 318poly based engine for the vintage class.

I think that is happening as we speak.

My understanding is there will be a real nasty y block in the nostalgia class

This class may be the one to watch.

dfree383 wrote:My understanding is there will be a real nasty y block in the nostalgia class

This class may be the one to watch.

D, are you competing this year?

68formalGT wrote:

dfree383 wrote:My understanding is there will be a real nasty y block in the nostalgia class

This class may be the one to watch.

D, are you competing this year?

I may put my name in the ring

^^^^^COOL!!!^^^^^

^^^^^X2

MEL for the win................

Vintage will be a hoot if a Flathead kicks ass.

rmcomprandy wrote:

BigBlockRanger wrote:


They were buzzing about the generational hemi thing.

I'd love to see someone build a 318poly based engine for the vintage class.

I think that is happening as we speak.

You've probably seen this, but these guys managed to get a peak of 270cfm out of the old poly head using a 1.94 intake valve. Not too shabby. Got a set of fancy T&D rockers/shafts/stands on it and an interesting air-gap style dual plane intake which I assume is probably made by Chrysler Power.

http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?61890-CNC-Ported-318-Poly-Heads

BigBlockRanger wrote:

rmcomprandy wrote:

BigBlockRanger wrote:


They were buzzing about the generational hemi thing.

I'd love to see someone build a 318poly based engine for the vintage class.

I think that is happening as we speak.

You've probably seen this, but these guys managed to get a peak of 270cfm out of the old poly head using a 1.94 intake valve.  Not too shabby.  Got a set of fancy T&D rockers/shafts/stands on it and an interesting air-gap style dual plane intake which I assume is probably made by Chrysler Power.

http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/showthread.php?61890-CNC-Ported-318-Poly-Heads

ever time I hear the New heads, from the BBC,Cleve's to the current Pro stock, I think of those old wide 318 Mopars from the 50's

Btw, good numbers from those old heads, they'er plans are for a stroker. for the ENC a small cube engine would be better imo.

heard of new heads a few years ago for the old Ford Y block. Never seen them, was wonder if the keep the over/under port

[quote="68formalGT"]I saw a posting by Barry R, the FE builder that said GM supplied the short blocks for the LS deal and that Ford wouldn't supply short blocks for the Mod motors, I'm not sure if that's 100% factual of its just being thrown out there as an excuse to exclude the Mod motor. http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1309954&page=3 I believe he suspected "Thought" Ford would not supply the short blocks, at least from what he said in post 36 in this thread. He does have a good point about them not being in the SB class. Hopefully EMC can figure it out since Ford only makes OHC V-8s now.

IDT-572 wrote:MEL for the win................

Not legal..... Too new

Every brand and sub class in those brands have benefited from this competition by showing where the builders find extra horsepower and torque, some of those places are in stock parts like the intake Kasse used on his winning mod motor. The loss of proven R&D by the builders that's put into a competitive arena should be enough to disappoint even the backers and fans of the other brands, how can you say your the best when your competition is told to stay home? Some say this competition is about the builder and his tuning abilities, and it is but it's still a win on Sunday sell on Monday world.