Stroking a 460 and dove-c heads

stroking a 460 is this really worth it?? ( i would also like to be able to say yeah 557 ci haha ) but it has to do what i want it to do
it good for a street car??
what changes would need to be made in this??
im building the engine i want it right the first time i want a mean street machine but im running dove-c heads would stroking be too much for these heads?
i thought about porting and bigger valves in the heads whats max port/valves you can have intake and exhaust side? and whats the combustion chamber size if you max them out?
when i bore it it will probably be .20 over
and i want 9:1 - 9.5:1 compression range
ill be running a c6 and about 3k stall

any kits suggested?? i only need cast pistons cause im not supercharging or anything i want motor its why i want big CI's
ive been looking at this site :
http://www.rpmmachine.com/ford-460-557-stroker.shtml
any suggestions welcome thank you for your time


~Bret

give Adney Brown a call at performance crank 586-549-7557 he can set you up with a sweet deal on a rotating assembly

X2 on Adney for the rotating assembly. As far as the heads, I'd call Scotty aka Mad Porter and get a set of his ported D3 heads. Tell him your goals and he'll set you up right. The D3's have a larger combustion chamber and it will be easier to get a pump gas friendly engine.

What's the purpose of building a stroker for racing if you're just gonna choke it down with piss poor heads?



Decent aluminum heads are readily available now, and they're not much more in cost than a stroker kit.

I would say that you could make more power with a non-stroker 460 with good heads than you could make with a stroker with D0VE heads.

Greg

Pump gas friendly, and about 600hp is easy to do with the iron heads and they are about 1/2 the price of a set of aluminums.

I'm new to this but if you get a stroker kit with a 4.5" stroke crankAnd 6.7" rods . You will have to go over 30 to be at 545 cubic in and over 80 to be at 557 cubic in. I'm building a 545 with dove c heads I figured I would get the stoker kit first then get aluminum heads later when I could aford it

Big block fox 339 wrote:I'm new to this but if you get a stroker kit with a 4.5" stroke crankAnd 6.7" rods . You will have to go over 30 to be at 545 cubic in and over 80 to be at 557 cubic in. I'm building a 545 with dove c heads I figured I would get the stoker kit first then get aluminum heads later when I could aford it

yeah im wanting to bore only 0.20 over if you check out themustangdepo.com that have a kit thats for any bore size at nice prices 780 bucks in my case i dont need forged pistions and such its going to be N/A

schmitty wrote:Pump gas friendly, and about 600hp is easy to do with the iron heads and they are about 1/2 the price of a set of aluminums.

what are these D3's? are they another type of D0VE head?

IMO build the best bottom end you can and run your dove heads, they may not be as awesome as everybodies big alum stuff but my ol 521 pushes with 4200lb pickup deep in the 11's with those old piss poor heads

sixtynineford wrote:IMO build the best bottom end you can and run your dove heads, they may not be as awesome as everybodies big alum stuff but my ol 521 pushes with 4200lb pickup deep in the 11's with those old piss poor heads

nice man 521 that stroked or a 521 engine?? whats a 4.5" stroke with 6.7 rods and 0.20 bore?? that 521? whats your compression ratio??? i need mine at 9.1:1 to 9.5:1 cause its strickly for street, but wont be driven tons

maybe let me know the specs of ur build? crank asymboly, head changes, intake manifold, ect.. thank you
emeil me at icebreaker1987@comcast.net

zues-90 wrote:yeah im wanting to bore only 0.20 over if you check out themustangdepo.com that have a kit thats for any bore size at nice prices 780 bucks in my case i dont need forged pistions and such its going to be N/A

buyer beware.
have the crank checked and fixed before use..

Diggindeeper wrote:

zues-90 wrote:yeah im wanting to bore only 0.20 over if you check out themustangdepo.com that have a kit thats for any bore size at nice prices 780 bucks in my case i dont need forged pistions and such its going to be N/A

buyer beware.
have the crank checked and fixed before use..

anyone had problems with this website??

http://www.themustangdepot.com/servlet/the-6/460%2C-ford%2C-stroker-kit%2C/Detail

thats the kit iv'e been looking at

no we do not have a problem with that sight just we tend to support the vendors here..........But remember one thing, Cheap is Cheap... you get what you pay for....... and if you dont get forged Pistons I feel for you..... that is just insurance.... you better start saving money so you can get another kits in the wings.......and another thing the .020 over is custom pistons, start adding up the cost....so good luck with your build.....



Randy

Why .020" over? As others have said, that requires a custom piston...And for Gods sake buy some forged pistons!

zues-90 wrote: its strickly for street, but wont be driven tons

Why then do you want a stroker engine. If it's just a toy build a nice 460-472 with about 450hp and have loads of fun.

Nevs wrote:Why .020" over? As others have said, that requires a custom piston...And for Gods sake buy some forged pistons!

Nev some people are so cheap you couldn't drive a tooth pick up their rear with a #16 lbs sledge hammer.... let him learn the hard way....


Randy

He won't make enough power with the D0VE's to hurt a cheapo crank. Besides, the engine will be all done by 4000 rpm anyway due to those heads.

Greg

LOL maybe not hurt it but i dont know how you'd go about ordering bearings for oval journals.

Dont hate on D0VE's. They can make plenty of power.

Oval journals, good point....... I goess those are the upgrade from square...lol...

I'm not hating on the D0VE's, but for every guy who gets 600 HP out of them there are dozens who are capped at 450 for some reason.

Plus, after you get the work done to a set of doves you're fast approaching aluminum head territory.

BTW, my bro and I built a D0VE head 460 that runs awesome, but our power goals were reasonable. I would bet we're at the 450 HP mark, and maybe with some tuning might get a little higher.

Greg

Iknow what you're saying. it takes the right person rubbin on them to see that type of power.

Just buy a set of Mad Porter's budget port heads. I doubt you will have over $1800 in them to your door and they are plenty capable heads for achieving well over 500hp. As far as crapping out at 4k rpm. I have used DOVE's and D3VE's that would pull well past 5k with no problem and they were untouched with only a valve job.

I think my d-3's do alright, 640h.p. @5800rpm.

schmitty wrote:Just buy a set of Mad Porter's budget port heads. I doubt you will have over $1800 in them to your door and they are plenty capable heads for achieving well over 500hp. As far as crapping out at 4k rpm. I have used DOVE's and D3VE's that would pull well past 5k with no problem and they were untouched with only a valve job.

No problem with a stock stroke, but a 557?

Nevs wrote:Why .020" over? As others have said, that requires a custom piston...And for Gods sake buy some forged pistons!

i now understand the 0.20 over deal yeah 0.30 over would be better ..........why would i need the forged pistons?? its street, N/A no turbo's or supercharger why spend the extra$$$

and im wanting to hit 550 hp mark will the D0VE-C not get this power even after porting ad bigger valves?

Nevs wrote:Why .020" over? As others have said, that requires a custom piston...And for Gods sake buy some forged pistons!

x1000 its just good insurance