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Stroking a 460 and dove-c heads

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Post  zues-90 November 29th 2009, 6:50 pm

oh .. i didnt think i could really have any problems not going forged... since im putting all new in anyways ill start looking into the forged... i have the d0ve-c heads would these do what im wanting to do for 550hp with 545 stroker or do i need to see about the d3's?? even if i port and put bigger valves n everything in the d0ve-c's?
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Post  Big block fox 339 November 29th 2009, 7:05 pm

zues-90 wrote:oh .. i didnt think i could really have any problems not going forged... since im putting all new in anyways ill start looking into the forged... i have the d0ve-c heads would these do what im wanting to do for 550hp with 545 stroker or do i need to see about the d3's?? even if i port and put bigger valves n everything in the d0ve-c's?

like i said im new to this but im running the dove c with 2.25 intake and 1.75 exhaust valves some port work on a 545 im thinking around 500 to 550 hp just depends on how well your set of heads flow i got forged just incase
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Post  zues-90 November 29th 2009, 7:21 pm

Big block fox 339 wrote:
zues-90 wrote:oh .. i didnt think i could really have any problems not going forged... since im putting all new in anyways ill start looking into the forged... i have the d0ve-c heads would these do what im wanting to do for 550hp with 545 stroker or do i need to see about the d3's?? even if i port and put bigger valves n everything in the d0ve-c's?

like i said im new to this but im running the dove c with 2.25 intake and 1.75 exhaust valves some port work on a 545 im thinking around 500 to 550 hp just depends on how well your set of heads flow i got forged just incase

thanks i think im going to go forged be cheaperthan if something went all wrong
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Post  the Coug November 29th 2009, 7:41 pm

here is another tip go to this sight and pay Scotty $25 and get access to his dove-c porting tips it will save you lots of head aches, it will show you where to remove and where not to touch the ports and short turns.... cuz if you do it in the wrong area you turn a set of dove heads to scrap metal in a hurry....

http://reincarnation-automotive.com
253-988-6648
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Post  zues-90 November 29th 2009, 7:44 pm

the Coug wrote:here is another tip go to this sight and pay Scotty $25 and get access to his dove-c porting tips it will save you lots of head aches, it will show you where to remove and where not to touch the ports and short turns.... cuz if you do it in the wrong area you turn a set of dove heads to scrap metal in a hurry....

http://reincarnation-automotive.com
253-988-6648
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cool thanks i was looking for his number , i tried to send him a message but for some reason the messaging on this site dont work for me

thanks alot,

~Bret
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Post  the Coug November 29th 2009, 7:47 pm

I think that will be the best $25 you will spend for info.....


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Post  zues-90 November 29th 2009, 7:49 pm

yeah thanks i think ill give him a call first to see if the d0ve-c will do what i wat if it does ill spend the 25 bucks


thanks,

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Post  schmitty November 29th 2009, 8:13 pm

There is nothing wrong with the DOVE's, but the D3VE heads have a larger combustion chamber to make it a lot easier to do the pump gas deal. DOVE's are 75cc+/- and the D3's are 95cc +/-. D3 castings are cheap and easy to find. You will be able to get a pump gas friendly 9:1 without going to extremely deep dish pistons. I have a 4.5" stroke 4.42 bore for 552ci with flat tops -5cc for the valve reliefs and DOVE heads@ 75cc's I am at 13:1+ CR. You will need a very deep dished piston to drop to 9:1. With the D3's and a 95cc chamber a shelf -22cc dish you will be there. Cool
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Post  zues-90 November 29th 2009, 8:20 pm

schmitty wrote:There is nothing wrong with the DOVE's, but the D3VE heads have a larger combustion chamber to make it a lot easier to do the pump gas deal. DOVE's are 75cc+/- and the D3's are 95cc +/-. D3 castings are cheap and easy to find. You will be able to get a pump gas friendly 9:1 without going to extremely deep dish pistons. I have a 4.5" stroke 4.42 bore for 552ci with flat tops -5cc for the valve reliefs and DOVE heads@ 75cc's I am at 13:1+ CR. You will need a very deep dished piston to drop to 9:1. With the D3's and a 95cc chamber a shelf -22cc dish you will be there. Cool

thanks thats really good info and what i been looking for, my main thing is with stroking the d0ve's combustion chamber sized being so small 75.8cc and i need pump gas 9.5:1 max so i may be switching to the d3's..

what are the d0ve-c's worth if i sell them?? they have after market springs n such already i ned to find out what else if anything has been done to them.. just a about price range, or maybe i could trade these heads for some d3's idk yet

thanks,

~bret
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Post  schmitty November 29th 2009, 11:39 pm

Talk to Mad Porter Scotty J, he may do some trading with you for a set of his D3's. The DOVE's are a desirable head and he may want your castings. Cool
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Post  zues-90 November 29th 2009, 11:49 pm

schmitty wrote:Talk to Mad Porter Scotty J, he may do some trading with you for a set of his D3's. The DOVE's are a desirable head and he may want your castings. Cool

yeah i thought of that too i sent him a email asking and for opinions thanks for the tip tho haha

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Post  psquare75 December 30th 2009, 11:13 am

Not to resurrect an old post, but Carl here (www.carsbycarl.com) put together a nice stroker using my ported Dove-Cs. My 4500 lb car with a C6, 2500 rpm torque converter from Scott as mentioned, and 3.5s moves perfectly fine for street use.
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Post  jasonf December 30th 2009, 12:26 pm

I wonder where this ever went. If you don't want to spend any money I would just buy some SCJ's from Lem and build a 460. The Ford Crate motor made 540ish hspr didn't it which is right where he wants to be anyways. Heads and pistons is all you need. Sounds like a good junk yard magazine article.
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Post  86 coupe January 1st 2010, 4:45 pm

hey if you want to trade for D 3 s i have a set and will pay the shipping

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