67-69 Mustang, Falcon, Cougar, Fairlane, Torino + others Front Suspension
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67-69 Mustang, Falcon, Cougar, Fairlane, Torino + others Front Suspension
Shock towers need to go on the SB street car (changing to BBF), I could cut/plate them but it may not be friendly for the number of plug inspections/changes. What are your preferences, it is Street/Strip and will have a halo bar, so forward tubing with a rack, coilover and a front plate could be added, or it could have relocated/eliminated towers with or without a rack and engine mounts. I need to those who have done it to chime in with who's parts/kit you used or if you built it with a certain size of part in mind, and the year model you did it to, any additional information also appreciated such as not street friendly, too harsh, too tight, breaks transmissions whatever etc.
FalconEh- Posts : 1448
Join date : 2014-08-21
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Re: 67-69 Mustang, Falcon, Cougar, Fairlane, Torino + others Front Suspension
I didn't do the actual work but had a Mustang II front suspension installed. It cleaned up the engine compartment and provided plenty of access to to the engine. Here is the kit I used . The person that installed it didn't mention anything bad about the kit either. We did have to get the drop spindles to get the stance correct. I can shoot you a pic on how the car sits now if you want.
http://rcmotorsportsinc.com/rc-107-adjustable-ride-height-coilover-conversion-package/
http://rcmotorsportsinc.com/rc-107-adjustable-ride-height-coilover-conversion-package/
John Myrick- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: 67-69 Mustang, Falcon, Cougar, Fairlane, Torino + others Front Suspension
We just got done doing a mustang 2 suspension on a 53 chevy and it really makes alot of room.
We have also used fox type k member with the strut assembly and small towers this is very labor intense and is not cheap
We have also used fox type k member with the strut assembly and small towers this is very labor intense and is not cheap
gmsmkr- Posts : 1364
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Re: 67-69 Mustang, Falcon, Cougar, Fairlane, Torino + others Front Suspension
John Myrick wrote:I didn't do the actual work but had a Mustang II front suspension installed. It cleaned up the engine compartment and provided plenty of access to to the engine. Here is the kit I used . The person that installed it didn't mention anything bad about the kit either. We did have to get the drop spindles to get the stance correct. I can shoot you a pic on how the car sits now if you want.
http://rcmotorsportsinc.com/rc-107-adjustable-ride-height-coilover-conversion-package/
Thanks John, That looks like a really nice kit, reasonable price too. I will not be installing myself either, but it would save a lot in billable hours and improve the handling and steering significantly and I need the drop, if you don't mind sending pics I would appreciate it. Did you have to relocate you master cylinder? Does it use the truck rear sump as opposed to the mid sump oil pan?
gmsmkr wrote:We just got done doing a mustang 2 suspension on a 53 chevy and it really makes alot of room.
We have also used fox type k member with the strut assembly and small towers this is very labor intense and is not cheap
Thanks Mike, I think by utilizing a kit more like John posted I would save my chassis guy a bunch of headaches, additional fab work, and parts sourcing, the Fox K sound cool but with my wallet and welding skills not likely.
FalconEh- Posts : 1448
Join date : 2014-08-21
Location : on the blacktop or in the mountains ????
Re: 67-69 Mustang, Falcon, Cougar, Fairlane, Torino + others Front Suspension
Go to Fatman fab and look at his bolt on front clip. It is pricey but it includes front struts etc. It completely opens up the engine compartment. Also check out total cost involved they have a bolt in strut kit that you can than cut the towers back. Good luck.
jeffgfg- Posts : 338
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Re: 67-69 Mustang, Falcon, Cougar, Fairlane, Torino + others Front Suspension
jeffgfg wrote:Go to Fatman fab and look at his bolt on front clip. It is pricey but it includes front struts etc. It completely opens up the engine compartment. Also check out total cost involved they have a bolt in strut kit that you can than cut the towers back. Good luck.
Thanks Jeff
FalconEh- Posts : 1448
Join date : 2014-08-21
Location : on the blacktop or in the mountains ????
Re: 67-69 Mustang, Falcon, Cougar, Fairlane, Torino + others Front Suspension
Don't know if my front rebuild will help but lots of pics and stuff.
https://www.429-460.com/t19973-1970-mustang-aje-front-suspension-conversion?highlight=70+front+suspension
https://www.429-460.com/t19973-1970-mustang-aje-front-suspension-conversion?highlight=70+front+suspension
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Re: 67-69 Mustang, Falcon, Cougar, Fairlane, Torino + others Front Suspension
FalconEh wrote:John Myrick wrote:I didn't do the actual work but had a Mustang II front suspension installed. It cleaned up the engine compartment and provided plenty of access to to the engine. Here is the kit I used . The person that installed it didn't mention anything bad about the kit either. We did have to get the drop spindles to get the stance correct. I can shoot you a pic on how the car sits now if you want.
http://rcmotorsportsinc.com/rc-107-adjustable-ride-height-coilover-conversion-package/
Thanks John, That looks like a really nice kit, reasonable price too. I will not be installing myself either, but it would save a lot in billable hours and improve the handling and steering significantly and I need the drop, if you don't mind sending pics I would appreciate it. Did you have to relocate you master cylinder? Does it use the truck rear sump as opposed to the mid sump oil pan?gmsmkr wrote:We just got done doing a mustang 2 suspension on a 53 chevy and it really makes alot of room.
We have also used fox type k member with the strut assembly and small towers this is very labor intense and is not cheap
Thanks Mike, I think by utilizing a kit more like John posted I would save my chassis guy a bunch of headaches, additional fab work, and parts sourcing, the Fox K sound cool but with my wallet and welding skills not likely.
Rear sump and didn't have to relocate the master cylinder. Shoot me your email for pics
John Myrick- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: 67-69 Mustang, Falcon, Cougar, Fairlane, Torino + others Front Suspension
70FB wrote:Don't know if my front rebuild will help but lots of pics and stuff.
https://www.429-460.com/t19973-1970-mustang-aje-front-suspension-conversion?highlight=70+front+suspension
Thanks 70FB, I was looking for your buildup I remembered following it, but I always struggle with the search box for some reason lots of great info and pics turned out awesome.
FalconEh- Posts : 1448
Join date : 2014-08-21
Location : on the blacktop or in the mountains ????
Re: 67-69 Mustang, Falcon, Cougar, Fairlane, Torino + others Front Suspension
Last week I stopped by a friend's shop and he was finishing up installing the Rod and Custom MII front end under an old Cyclone. Looked nice and really opened everything up... He's a fab man and said it was an easy install.
jbozzelle- Posts : 3705
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Location : New Orleans
Re: 67-69 Mustang, Falcon, Cougar, Fairlane, Torino + others Front Suspension
We use Fox mustang parts and build our own k-members. I'd rather stay away from mustang 2 stuff on drag cars but they seem to work for a lot of people.
whatbumper- Posts : 3024
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Re: 67-69 Mustang, Falcon, Cougar, Fairlane, Torino + others Front Suspension
I usually like a strut swap vs the MII swap (but the AJE brand strut stuff is a little lacking in valving adjustability for a drag car tho). IMO one problem with the MII stuff is you're still having to deal with an upper control arm in the way/chewing up some space. Another is the MII's short suspension travel when using coilovers. The MII travel is kinda decent with the stock spring/shock setup. But there is also a decent amount of tire side-scrub with that travel, probably because the shorter arc travel from MII's kinda short control arm lengths.
DILLIGASDAVE- Posts : 2262
Join date : 2009-08-08
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Re: 67-69 Mustang, Falcon, Cougar, Fairlane, Torino + others Front Suspension
jbozzelle wrote:Last week I stopped by a friend's shop and he was finishing up installing the Rod and Custom MII front end under an old Cyclone. Looked nice and really opened everything up... He's a fab man and said it was an easy install.
Thanks John, I have been led to their site ^^ their stuff looks good, reasonable priced, and it looks in line with where I am at.
whatbumper wrote:We use Fox mustang parts and build our own k-members. I'd rather stay away from mustang 2 stuff on drag cars but they seem to work for a lot of people.
Thanks Justin, Great info, and future budget considerations.
DILLIGASDAVE wrote:I usually like a strut swap vs the MII swap (but the AJE brand strut stuff is a little lacking in valving adjustability for a drag car tho). IMO one problem with the MII stuff is you're still having to deal with an upper control arm in the way/chewing up some space. Another is the MII's short suspension travel when using coilovers. The MII travel is kinda decent with the stock spring/shock setup. But there is also a decent amount of tire side-scrub with that travel, probably because the shorter arc travel from MII's kinda short control arm lengths.
Thanks Dave, Again Great info, I may have to rename this car to sacrifice...
Thanks Everyone for the very informative posts/emails , links, pictures etc. right on point, I will be leaning towards the R&C MII kit, as my welding skills are better suited to more basic projects, and my wallet say's although my chassis guy can do it differently I need too many other things for this project. Up until a few months ago the car was still a leaf spring, now a ladder bar/coilover, and still has manual steering and factory uncut shocktowers so it should steer and handle better than it ever has, with a BBF as opposed to the SB currently installed and I do street/strip it so there has to be compromises on both avenues. Bring on the plug changes
FalconEh- Posts : 1448
Join date : 2014-08-21
Location : on the blacktop or in the mountains ????
Re: 67-69 Mustang, Falcon, Cougar, Fairlane, Torino + others Front Suspension
Made my own w a set of fox struts and a pinto rack, fab skills a must
richter69- Posts : 13649
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Re: 67-69 Mustang, Falcon, Cougar, Fairlane, Torino + others Front Suspension
richter69 wrote:Made my own w a set of fox struts and a pinto rack, fab skills a must
The welding part of the fab skills is my problem, maybe some night time Trade school welding courses, and a new welder might help
FalconEh- Posts : 1448
Join date : 2014-08-21
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