missfire at idle on new engine
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FalconEh
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missfire at idle on new engine
whats my problem iam lost
tzford- Posts : 24
Join date : 2013-07-14
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Re: missfire at idle on new engine
More info is needed. What motor?? what are the specifics?? what kind of ignition?? what cam, compression, carb??
BBFTorino- Posts : 999
Join date : 2015-12-31
Re: missfire at idle on new engine
Does it have a good dedicated engine-to-chassis ground wire/strap?
DILLIGASDAVE- Posts : 2262
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Re: missfire at idle on new engine
q uote="BBFTorino"]More info is needed. What motor?? what are the specifics?? what kind of ignition?? what cam, compression, carb??[/quote motor 637 ford msd dis and a 7al2 box lunati solid lifter compression is 13.5 carb is 1050 pro systems
tzford- Posts : 24
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Re: missfire at idle on new engine
yes it has three groundsDILLIGASDAVE wrote:Does it have a good dedicated engine-to-chassis ground wire/strap?
tzford- Posts : 24
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Re: missfire at idle on new engine
Did you check the "rotor phasing"?
FalconEh- Posts : 1448
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Re: missfire at idle on new engine
Check pickup /crank trigger wiring polarity. Also check the trigger magnet polarity at the crank trigger wheel. One or more may be installed incorrectly from the factory.
FErocious68XL- Posts : 4
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Location : southern Alberta
Re: missfire at idle on new engine
does not have a crank triggerFErocious68XL wrote:Check pickup /crank trigger wiring polarity. Also check the trigger magnet polarity at the crank trigger wheel. One or more may be installed incorrectly from the factory.
tzford- Posts : 24
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Re: missfire at idle on new engine
Check pickup trigger wire polarity.
FErocious68XL- Posts : 4
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Re: missfire at idle on new engine
Always the same cylinder that misfires? If so, swap that wire with another cylinder and see iff the misfire goes with the wire. If not, swap plugs and check again. Also look for clean terminals inside the dist. cap ...and any signs of dirt, scratches, etc., in the cap.
maverick- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: missfire at idle on new engine
new cap roter andwires and plugsmaverick wrote:Always the same cylinder that misfires? If so, swap that wire with another cylinder and see iff the misfire goes with the wire. If not, swap plugs and check again. Also look for clean terminals inside the dist. cap ...and any signs of dirt, scratches, etc., in the cap.
tzford- Posts : 24
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Re: missfire at idle on new engine
Compression test??
Re-check valve lash??
Have the MSD box re-checked.
Re-check valve lash??
Have the MSD box re-checked.
BBFTorino- Posts : 999
Join date : 2015-12-31
Re: missfire at idle on new engine
tzford wrote:new cap roter andwires and plugsmaverick wrote:Always the same cylinder that misfires? If so, swap that wire with another cylinder and see iff the misfire goes with the wire. If not, swap plugs and check again. Also look for clean terminals inside the dist. cap ...and any signs of dirt, scratches, etc., in the cap.
I didn't ask how old they are. I was merely suggesting that a FREE and SIMPLE TEST might RULE THEM OUT as a possible source of you aggrivation.
Lord knows, none of us has ever found a new part to be defective. Carry on.
maverick- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: missfire at idle on new engine
msd box checked twice by msd ben over valve lash 5 times ;compression test fineBBFTorino wrote:Compression test??
Re-check valve lash??
Have the MSD box re-checked.
tzford- Posts : 24
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Location : lake luzerne new york
Re: missfire at idle on new engine
Plug wires run to close to each other. 7&8.the problem. Most of the time
DanH- Posts : 1081
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Re: missfire at idle on new engine
Check your firing order again to make sure you don't have 2 wires crossed. It happens.
cletus66- Posts : 865
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Re: missfire at idle on new engine
checked fireing order a number of timescletus66 wrote:Check your firing order again to make sure you don't have 2 wires crossed. It happens.
tzford- Posts : 24
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Re: missfire at idle on new engine
IF the miss is only at idle, and...
IF the miss is always the same cylinder, and...
IF all electrical components for that cylinder are working properly, (not just assumed because they're new) and...
IF the spark plug is not contaminated with oil, then...
...chech for a vacuum leak somewhere along that intake runner, anywhere from carb base to the flange at the cylinder head.
If the plug shows oil contamination, look for a leak under the manifold (from lifter valley into the intake port).
Personally, I'd use one of those cheap spark testers plugged into the spark plug wire to test while running. If the running spark is good, proceed with above.
IF the miss is always the same cylinder, and...
IF all electrical components for that cylinder are working properly, (not just assumed because they're new) and...
IF the spark plug is not contaminated with oil, then...
...chech for a vacuum leak somewhere along that intake runner, anywhere from carb base to the flange at the cylinder head.
If the plug shows oil contamination, look for a leak under the manifold (from lifter valley into the intake port).
Personally, I'd use one of those cheap spark testers plugged into the spark plug wire to test while running. If the running spark is good, proceed with above.
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