Re: Post some things you learned about products after you bought them!

cool40 February 2nd 2010, 9:43 pm

torque converters never fit! just cuz a part costs more dont mean its better.the last nofit part i got was a tci shaft for my c4,the splines had to be cut longer so the converter would slide in where it should be. Evil or Very Mad

'65 T-BOLT February 2nd 2010, 10:16 pm

the Coug wrote:
Notch 501 wrote:hooker super comp swap headers are not direct bolt in....

I have had many set of Hookers and absolutely none have ever fit right... Period

Randy

yep! two sets of Hooker headers and they were cut up for parts
autozone (OEM) serp belt tool. had to cut a brand new tool up to fit in the confined space of a friends 02 caravan.

jesse February 2nd 2010, 10:22 pm

we should make this a sticky lol
sorry i had to

lakewood bellhousing's
good luck finding a starter that will work

deliveredfast February 2nd 2010, 10:29 pm

jesse wrote:we should make this a sticky lol
sorry i had to

lakewood bellhousing's
good luck finding a starter that will work

Maybe I'll bump it every day so it will seem like one Very Happy

But seriously this thread has already helped a couple people. It helped some body find a tool they needed.

jesse February 2nd 2010, 11:28 pm

i agree good topic
i just like to be a smart azz

4thHorseman February 3rd 2010, 12:11 am

I bought a big a$$ wrench to fit the lock nuts on my Caltracs. Paid $26 at O'Reilly. Got it home and immediately cut in right in two so it could fit on the nuts with the tires on the ground. Didn't feel too bad because it was a GM Goodwrench. Very Happy

deliveredfast February 3rd 2010, 12:58 am

jesse wrote:i agree good topic
i just like to be a smart azz

Oh I knew you were raazin me, Was just making a point to some others Laughing

hpwdboss1 February 3rd 2010, 9:23 am

I found that my Manley guide plates needed the stud holes elongated to align with the head holes. I believe the bosses were machined a little to much.
Always buy timing gear sets with more than three key locations for timing your cam.
Perry

paulie9fingers February 3rd 2010, 9:45 am

deliveredfast wrote:I'd like you all to post things that you wished you had known before you bought a product. I'll start it off with a few I have. This thread is in no way for us to bash a product or a merchant.

1. Jesel shaft rockers are not a bolt on deal. You have to cut ur head studs flush to the nut. You also have to mill part of the rocker arm stand that hangs over the said stud.

2.The supplemental stud kit you buy for the 18 bolt head deal. You should get the kit with the 6pt nut and bolts. If you get the 12pt you will have to track down a very expensive 12pt crows foot or a some what expensive torque adapter.

3. when you buy a replacement shaft for ur MSD dizzy it will come un drilled, you have to drill ur own holes for the collar and gear.

I'll post more as I think of them.

Do you have any pics of your rockers after installation and what part number are you using, mine need some "field modifications" too, I'm using #KCS(now KPS)-19187.

Thanks

tiger February 3rd 2010, 9:53 am

'65 T-BOLT wrote:
the Coug wrote:
Notch 501 wrote:hooker super comp swap headers are not direct bolt in....

I have had many set of Hookers and absolutely none have ever fit right... Period

Randy
yep! two sets of Hooker headers and they were cut up for parts
autozone (OEM) serp belt tool. had to cut a brand new tool up to fit in the confined space of a friends 02 caravan.

You can call Hooker up and complain about the headers not fitting, and listen to them tell you that they have never heard that complaint before. Suspect

Big block fox 339 February 3rd 2010, 11:08 am

I don't know if this is just bad stuff about Products or good to but d&d headers fit perfect

Ps. Hookers don't fit lol

torkair February 3rd 2010, 1:44 pm

[quote="tiger"][quote="'65 T-BOLT"]

the Coug wrote:
Notch 501 wrote:hooker super comp swap headers are not direct bolt in....

You can call Hooker up and complain about the headers not fitting, and listen to them tell you that they have never heard that complaint before.

You'll get the EXACT same excuse from Scatt about their seat brackets and they won't even take them back!!!

$150 down the crapper!!!

deliveredfast February 3rd 2010, 3:11 pm

paulie9fingers wrote:

Do you have any pics of your rockers after installation and what part number are you using, mine need some "field modifications" too, I'm using #KCS(now KPS)-19187.

Thanks

I'm on baby duty today until about 8pm. After that I'll go out and take some pics. I only installed #1 cylinder so that I could get my push rod length. But the pics should be enough.

psquare75 February 3rd 2010, 3:15 pm

[quote="deliveredfast"]

Notch 501 wrote:hooker super comp swap headers are not direct bolt in....

Depends on the car.. 72-79 midsized, these are the best headers I've ever used. Period.

jasonf February 3rd 2010, 4:12 pm

torkair wrote:

You'll get the EXACT same excuse from Scatt about their seat brackets and they won't even take them back!!!

$150 down the crapper!!!

I bought mine from Summit or Jegs on a sale and their brackets were no where near right. The one good thing about the big stores is they have a good return policy.

My general policy on all parts is if I know what I want then I will shop for the best price. If I need technical help to decide what I need then I purchase from whomever I called for the technical help (no matter the cost). This also applies to parts that I may need help with installation or service later on.

torkair February 3rd 2010, 4:42 pm

jasonf wrote:
torkair wrote:

You'll get the EXACT same excuse from Scatt about their seat brackets and they won't even take them back!!!

$150 down the crapper!!!

I bought mine from Summit or Jegs on a sale and their brackets were no where near right. The one good thing about the big stores is they have a good return policy.

My general policy on all parts is if I know what I want then I will shop for the best price. If I need technical help to decide what I need then I purchase from whomever I called for the technical help (no matter the cost). This also applies to parts that I may need help with installation or service later on.

Got mine from Summit too but they told me that I had to deal with Scatt. I'm still p1$$ed about it because I've got a set of seats that look great but wont fit in the car.

deliveredfast February 4th 2010, 8:00 pm

paulie9fingers wrote:
deliveredfast wrote:I'd like you all to post things that you wished you had known before you bought a product. I'll start it off with a few I have. This thread is in no way for us to bash a product or a merchant.

1. Jesel shaft rockers are not a bolt on deal. You have to cut ur head studs flush to the nut. You also have to mill part of the rocker arm stand that hangs over the said stud.

2.The supplemental stud kit you buy for the 18 bolt head deal. You should get the kit with the 6pt nut and bolts. If you get the 12pt you will have to track down a very expensive 12pt crows foot or a some what expensive torque adapter.

3. when you buy a replacement shaft for ur MSD dizzy it will come un drilled, you have to drill ur own holes for the collar and gear.

I'll post more as I think of them.

Do you have any pics of your rockers after installation and what part number are you using, mine need some "field modifications" too, I'm using #KCS(now KPS)-19187.

Thanks

Here are the pics you asked for below. I looked today and yes the exhaust stands are different from the intake. The intake shaft is 2.15 and the exhaust shaft is 2.00 inches. The part# for my exhaust stands is stn-20321 and the intake stand part# is stn-20320. Hope this helps Laughing

pic of shafts installed on #1 cylinder
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pic of stand
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pic of head stud cut down to the nut
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pic of stand where I cut off the end that goes over head stud
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paulie9fingers February 4th 2010, 10:18 pm

AWESOME DUDE !!!!!, I'll check my stuff out and see what I have.

Thanks a ton,
Paul

*****edit*****
I just looked, my parts are as follows, Int. #20191 and Exh. #20192, all of my shafts are 2.15 long and all of my rockers are #CAAS75. Charles,what are your rocker numbers and what are your spring diameters.

I think I'm gonna sell these and buy the current number that Jesel shows for the TFS head.

billandlori February 5th 2010, 5:01 am

the Coug wrote:
Notch 501 wrote:hooker super comp swap headers are not direct bolt in....

I have had many set of Hookers and absolutely none have ever fit right... Period

Randy

You guys beat me to it!!

I won't own "Many set of hooker headers" though...... Evil or Very Mad

Bill

deliveredfast February 5th 2010, 8:13 am

paulie9fingers wrote:AWESOME DUDE !!!!!, I'll check my stuff out and see what I have.

Thanks a ton,
Paul

*****edit*****
I just looked, my parts are as follows, Int. #20191 and Exh. #20192, all of my shafts are 2.15 long and all of my rockers are #CAAS75. Charles,what are your rocker numbers and what are your spring diameters.

I think I'm gonna sell these and buy the current number that Jesel shows for the TFS head.

I didn't see any #'s for the rockers. They are 1.70, my springs are the nex tex springs. After work I can measure the springs for ya.

paulie9fingers February 5th 2010, 8:51 am

The numbers on mine are stamped in the bottom, thanks.

bruno February 5th 2010, 10:00 am

so where the intake and exhaust pedestails are bolted together is that were you like to weld those up ?

paulie9fingers February 5th 2010, 11:14 am

Everyone I've talked to has told me NOT to weld them together, the bolt together design is sufficient and all it does is cause issues if you have to replace a stand.

deliveredfast February 5th 2010, 6:52 pm

paulie9fingers wrote:The numbers on mine are stamped in the bottom, thanks.

The #'s on my rockers are gaas70 and its on both intake and exhaust even though the exhaust has a shorter shaft. I wonder if you could by the 2 inch shafts and the stands for just the exhaust confused

the Coug February 5th 2010, 7:26 pm

the pain in the A$$ you guy's are having with the shaft rockers is a Sure freakin bet I wouldn't ever own any if they offered to give me the Factory....... studs and girdle are way stronger in my oppinion and Way far less Freakin hassle.......

Randy

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