tested the new glide
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tested the new glide
went to t/t today to thrash the new glide.left of the brake at 3800,wheels up about a foot ,smooth pass.6800rpm was the sweet spot for shift and went 6800 at the lights .1.26 60"/5.81/117mph.not bad.BUT the c4 done the same,footbraken,last year.so much for the "magic"glide.
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what specs on the converter?
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it's an 8" ptc.they said it was best they could do without goen 9.5".it works great,rpm drops about 1200 at shift and pulls hard all the way.i tried a 7000 shift and slowed to 5.83.plugs look good but i'm tinken more carb.
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8" seems a bit small, surprised it falls back that good. I bet you put some more power to it and it will boogie.
What converter did the c4 have? what does the car weight?
What converter did the c4 have? what does the car weight?
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it's been years but it weighed bout 2500#w/o me.the c4 had a 10" in it last that worked good footbraken but it would go to the bumper if i transbraked it.i was thinken it would mph more than 117 @ 6800 but it's gona have some "slip"i guess.i'm gona change some stuff now,i just wanted to see what the trans did first.
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I have a 5500 converter than slips about 3.4%, at your weight the 60' is good, but looks like it lacks some hp.
You might be at the point where the c4/glide break even....if it didnt spin with the c/4 then the 2 speed may not help much. You put more power to it the glide will shine..............and I think there is some to get in the converter department.
what first gear ratio does the tranny have in it?
You might be at the point where the c4/glide break even....if it didnt spin with the c/4 then the 2 speed may not help much. You put more power to it the glide will shine..............and I think there is some to get in the converter department.
what first gear ratio does the tranny have in it?
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1.80 low gear.i'm gona try more carb next.i've gota try something,this shit aint gona get it.
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How much gear and tire out back?
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4.86 gear/15x33 m/t's.it's a little lower on compression than i'd liked it to be,flat top's with A460's,but i still think i'm overlooking something.
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injected methanol will fix it.
what trap rpm and mph did you have again?
what trap rpm and mph did you have again?
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that's gona happen too! i'v got a ex514 intake or............a old tall ram that could use 2 terminators if i dont get some more out of it soon i'm gona down it and take the heads to Blake and see what can be done with it.117mph/6800rpmrichter69 wrote:injected methanol will fix it.
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If the numbers you gave are right thats 15.94% which is terrible. An 8" converter has no place behind a BB Ford IMO.
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thats what i come up with too but i'v been told that 1/8 mile dont figure out like 1/4.
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if your getting it to 6800 in the 1/8th then it dont matter....sucker is too loose. Not the 1st time PTC missed a converter setup...ask Blake how many it took.
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We had an 8" Chance bolt together behind our 557" A460 head combo, had less than 5% slippage. 14% is not acceptable at all. Get the right converter and the 'glide will shine, just like Jon said. Personally, I'd loose the 4.86 gear as well, but that's me. We ran a 4.57 gear, worked for 1/8th and 1/4 just as well.
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an easy test is to drain all the at fluid out and fill back up with the JD Hygard hyd oil, it will snug up the converter approx 200 rpm, not a fix but will give you some idea. One of them S98 Toyota core converters are real popular now........work damn good. Hell my 9" converter was as tight as it would go and even with the c/4 and hyd oil in it it was too loose. The deal I have now is actually a bit on the tight side, but its working. Instead of sending it back to Lenny I'll just up the power this fall lol.
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call ptc and get their double throw down lockup 9.5 inch convertor. shift a little earlier and let that big dog eat.
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call lenny at ultimate converter my 9 inch in a 532 bbf with a glide @3260 will run 5.60 on motor with eldebrock heads stock suspension and true 10.5 tires, something is seriously wrong with your combo you get it sorted out it should run some 5.50's easy.
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whats the motor combo cool?????
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studly wrote:call lenny at ultimate converter my 9 inch in a 532 bbf with a glide @3260 will run 5.60 on motor with eldebrock heads stock suspension and true 10.5 tires, something is seriously wrong with your combo you get it sorted out it should run some 5.50's easy.
sorry to hijack the thread but that equates to 1000hp on muscle at that weight .... i would love to know the combo also ---- and what was the mph ?
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I know ultimate converter is a good choice. I have never used them but I do know some guys that do and are very pleased.
our glide sounded like a three speed with the ptc converter. we picked up .15 with only the converter change and the last combo was optimized pretty well. we had less than 2% slippage on the big end.
our glide sounded like a three speed with the ptc converter. we picked up .15 with only the converter change and the last combo was optimized pretty well. we had less than 2% slippage on the big end.
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Lenny is the man.............I'll see if I can round him up for his input, he's a member here.
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dam guys i went to eat and you all show up i'v been screwen with this thing forever,i know you've saw the cam swap deal & converter deal last year.car is about 2500# w/o me.tube chassis,ladder bars& struts.526 cid/4.440x4.250,bryant crank,oliver rods,j&e pistons[flat tops]a460 heads/2.300-1.880valves.a460 intake&1050holley.cam is an old ultradyne 270ish@50-720lift.i just looked for the card and cant find it.it did have a lot more cam but just did'nt have any low end.with it i shifted at 7500 and ran 5.76-8 at 118-119 but 60"was 1.32.thanks for all the help
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bruno wrote:studly wrote:call lenny at ultimate converter my 9 inch in a 532 bbf with a glide @3260 will run 5.60 on motor with eldebrock heads stock suspension and true 10.5 tires, something is seriously wrong with your combo you get it sorted out it should run some 5.50's easy.
sorry to hijack the thread but that equates to 1000hp on muscle at that weight .... i would love to know the combo also ---- and what was the mph ?
dont think its making a 1000 maybe 875-900 but its got a set of massaged eldebrock heads some paccaloy valve springs a pretty big solid roller and forged bottom end 9 inch UCC pro mod converter with diode sometimes i leave in high gear if the track is ruff but the car consistently runs in the 5.7O range it has dipped in the 5.69 once but i was just saying with a set of a460 heads and at 2500-2600 pounds his car should be flying sorry to exaggerate a little
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i ran a 4.30 last trip with the c4 and went 5.81/117Nevs wrote:We had an 8" Chance bolt together behind our 557" A460 head combo, had less than 5% slippage. 14% is not acceptable at all. Get the right converter and the 'glide will shine, just like Jon said. Personally, I'd loose the 4.86 gear as well, but that's me. We ran a 4.57 gear, worked for 1/8th and 1/4 just as well.
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