MY 598 BUILD

my parts i have bought so far.

motorsport block

performance crankshaft 4.500 4340

scat h beams with arp 2000 rod bolts

diamond pistons top coated with slipper skirts total seal rings

trick flow new style A heads that have been ported by charlie evans

trick flow intake with two foggers and a plate system

t+d shaft rockers

qft 1280 dominator

fluid dampner balancer with j/w flex plate

all internal arp hard wear

csr water pump


canton pan

trick flow valve covers

cloves timing chain

still waiting on cam selection, i bought the a heads used so im sending them back to charlie for inspection and suggestion on cam and springs.
any input on parts selected would be good, this is my budget build - cobra tom

I'd toss a Danny Bee belt drive in the mix as well...........

Kasse oil pump..... I would never do a wet sump with in pan pump without one..

Unless you already have the Fluid Damper I would get an ATI or Innovators West.

Also, you can call Adney on the crank order and he can put a shorter Boss 429 style snout on the crank for cheap. Stronger than having the damper hung way out here.

MSD distributor, but a Duraspark will work as well, just not as easy to adjust.

Also, take a look at the build on my 598. Similar to yours except mine is NA, alky injected:

https://www.429-460.com/t10013-598-a-head-w-dyno-results

^^^^ what he said, and I'd get with Lem on a pan.

One item that jumped out was the JW wheel. This engine will produce over 1000 HP without any power adders. The JW wheel will have a short life span, especially if you have a heavy car.
I reccomend the new CSR aluminum flexplate.
I agree that a Danny Bee would be a nice addition. Don't scrimp on the oil pump and pan. If you choose an aggressive cam, you may want to bush the lifter bores.
Big pushrods are good. Consider 1/2".......They require a little clearancing work but the rewards are worth it.
You will like this engine. It will find any weak component in your trans, axle and suspension.
Ok.....now I will be quiet.
Keith!

One more thought.
If Charlie tries to sell you a big ol' set of titanium intake valves, go ahead and get them....
:-)
Keith

3 guns ........vacuum pump ? ring package ? nos cam ? ---get with Lem on that deal .... also get the custom pan too .....gonna subscribe to this one gonna build one very similar

"this is my budget build"........ WOW i wish i had your budget ,

yep the tally is addin up fast lol.

X2 on the big pushrods and Ti valves...........

bruno wrote:3 guns ........vacuum pump ? ring package ? nos cam ? ---get with Lem on that deal .... also get the custom pan too .....gonna subscribe to this one gonna build one very similar

Three guns and it's a budget deal...

David Cole wrote:Kasse oil pump..... I would never do a wet sump with in pan pump without one..

Unless you already have the Fluid Damper I would get an ATI or Innovators West.

Also, you can call Adney on the crank order and he can put a shorter Boss 429 style snout on the crank for cheap. Stronger than having the damper hung way out here.

MSD distributor, but a Duraspark will work as well, just not as easy to adjust.

Also, take a look at the build on my 598. Similar to yours except mine is NA, alky injected:

https://www.429-460.com/t10013-598-a-head-w-dyno-results

i forgot to mention i did pick up a kaase pump, also i have a msd billit dizzy and a digital 7 box. i already have a fluid dampner but if i can find an innovators this winter i will use it ans sell the one i have. thanks for the input - cobra tom

Lem Evans wrote:

bruno wrote:3 guns ........vacuum pump ? ring package ? nos cam ? ---get with Lem on that deal .... also get the custom pan too .....gonna subscribe to this one gonna build one very similar

Three guns and it's a budget deal...

aside from the crank rods and pistons every thing i have bought has been used. ive been to a ton of swap meets and have bought a lot of parts from members on 460 ford.com. alot of the parts i bought were package deals, heads, rockers, valve covers and studs all came together as an example. i am trying to buy the best parts i can afford, sometimes there just not new...lol. its taken awhile to come up with what i have but i think it will be worth the wait. thanks to everyone for there input and suggestions. - cobra tom

richter69 wrote:I'd toss a Danny Bee belt drive in the mix as well...........

i wish...lol

Nothing wrong with investing in used parts. I wouldn't have the engine I have now if I had to buy it all new.

X2 on the used parts if wasn't for used parts I would still be building my truck I would say mine is about 50% used parts

i cant say about the bbf but the fluid dampner i had on my 86 mustang was a heavy sob.i took it off and put a stock one on and i could tell it.lol. i just got my first belt drive and have no idea why i did'nt have one years ago! if you can get it in your build,even later,get one.

I didn't think anyone was using Fluid dampers anymore ?

On the parts... MSD crank trigger, Danny Bee

7/16th push rods at the least.


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cool40 wrote:i cant say about the bbf but the fluid dampner i had on my 86 mustang was a heavy sob.i took it off and put a stock one on and i could tell it.lol. i just got my first belt drive and have no idea why i did'nt have one years ago! if you can get it in your build,even later,get one.

yeah, i really want one but there is alot of parts i still have to come up with this winter. i am going to the u.f.o. swap in ohio over thanksgiving weekend and hope to do well, heck maybe i can find one there for a good price.

G-Code wrote:

I didn't think anyone was using Fluid dampers anymore ?

On the parts... MSD crank trigger, Danny Bee

7/16th push rods at the least.


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thats what i get for using the fall off parts......lol

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I will be there also Tom,another set of eyes always help at that swap,so if you want me to help spot something,post me your phone # and If I see something I can buzz you . Saturday is the best day to find anything imo. Oh yeah nice build

Like G Code said.........don't skimp on the pushrods. 7/16" x .165" wall would be good.

cool40 wrote:i cant say about the bbf but the fluid dampner i had on my 86 mustang was a heavy sob.i took it off and put a stock one on and i could tell it.lol. i just got my first belt drive and have no idea why i did'nt have one years ago! if you can get it in your build,even later,get one.

with a build like that I would do it now...patience is a virtue, screw that 40 dollar chain.

138 wrote:

cool40 wrote:i cant say about the bbf but the fluid dampner i had on my 86 mustang was a heavy sob.i took it off and put a stock one on and i could tell it.lol. i just got my first belt drive and have no idea why i did'nt have one years ago! if you can get it in your build,even later,get one.

with a build like that I would do it now...patience is a virtue, screw that 40 dollar chain.

more and more people keep telling me this, i will probably have to find one this winter. its a lot of money but im sure its worth it. thanks for the input - cobra tom

cobra tom wrote:

138 wrote:

cool40 wrote:i cant say about the bbf but the fluid dampner i had on my 86 mustang was a heavy sob.i took it off and put a stock one on and i could tell it.lol. i just got my first belt drive and have no idea why i did'nt have one years ago! if you can get it in your build,even later,get one.

with a build like that I would do it now...patience is a virtue, screw that 40 dollar chain.

more and more people keep telling me this, i will probably have to find one this winter. its a lot of money but im sure its worth it. thanks for the input - cobra tom

There's nothing wrong w/chain Belt drive is just easier for the dyno or you want too make a quick change.

I'd use the 80 dollar chain over the 40 dollar unit for sure though..................



Honestly I'd rather do 2 guns with a belt drive over 3 with a chain........there are some other benefits to a belt drive other than ease of cam timing adjustments on the dyno etc.