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dry sump and vac pump
i have been planning on buying a dry sump and vac for my motor the past few yrs
but i keep on spending money on other areas of my truck
i hope to possibly save up enof this winter to do so
my question is
is it a wast of money? and when dose it become a good idea to run one?
my motor see's no higher than 8000 rpms
i currently run a kasse oil pump and header vac's
seems to work well
i do like to idea of a dry sump and vac pump possibly keeping my oil cooler between runs
and would it help the wear and tear on a motor
but i keep on spending money on other areas of my truck
i hope to possibly save up enof this winter to do so
my question is
is it a wast of money? and when dose it become a good idea to run one?
my motor see's no higher than 8000 rpms
i currently run a kasse oil pump and header vac's
seems to work well
i do like to idea of a dry sump and vac pump possibly keeping my oil cooler between runs
and would it help the wear and tear on a motor
jesse- Posts : 447
Join date : 2009-03-18
Age : 45
Location : little falls, mn
Re: dry sump and vac pump
IMO they are worth the money and some power.
It comes down to money..... a good system isn't cheap.
It comes down to money..... a good system isn't cheap.
dfree383- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: dry sump and vac pump
IMO , money would be best spent on other upgrades .
yes for the cooler oil . how hot is your oil getting ? a good header pan evac can pull enuff vacuum , so little gain over a pump
yes for the cooler oil . how hot is your oil getting ? a good header pan evac can pull enuff vacuum , so little gain over a pump
DanH- Posts : 1081
Join date : 2009-08-06
Re: dry sump and vac pump
as we all know truck pulling is very hard on motors
oil temp is a big concern for me. some times i gotta make a run back to back within 10 min
or less
and i like the easy oil priming after the truck has been sittin for a few days
i do belive it will help me and help keep the motor in good shape
oil temp is a big concern for me. some times i gotta make a run back to back within 10 min
or less
and i like the easy oil priming after the truck has been sittin for a few days
i do belive it will help me and help keep the motor in good shape
jesse- Posts : 447
Join date : 2009-03-18
Age : 45
Location : little falls, mn
Re: dry sump and vac pump
For all the pluses, whats another couple grand, some space, and a little extra weight...especialy if you have a nice motor with high dollar parts...
138- Posts : 1593
Join date : 2009-08-19
Re: dry sump and vac pump
i wouldnt say i have a high dollar motor
i good motor thou
and i wanna keep it good
i can sell my wet sump set up and recover some cost
that is the nice thing about a pulling truck
plenty of room to add stuff
i good motor thou
and i wanna keep it good
i can sell my wet sump set up and recover some cost
that is the nice thing about a pulling truck
plenty of room to add stuff
jesse- Posts : 447
Join date : 2009-03-18
Age : 45
Location : little falls, mn
Re: dry sump and vac pump
the bad.... it adds weight
good, oil lives longer
good, engine runs cooler
bad, tuffer to change oil
bad ,cost
good, prime before every start if you want
good, no reason to warmup engine
good, makes more power, everytime
good, oil stays cleaner
its a pain to switch to a drysump the first time but well worth it, noone ive ever switched to one was sorry, nether will you
good, oil lives longer
good, engine runs cooler
bad, tuffer to change oil
bad ,cost
good, prime before every start if you want
good, no reason to warmup engine
good, makes more power, everytime
good, oil stays cleaner
its a pain to switch to a drysump the first time but well worth it, noone ive ever switched to one was sorry, nether will you
BOSS 429- Posts : 2372
Join date : 2009-08-10
Location : Ill
Re: dry sump and vac pump
cool thanxs
i think i found a set up for a great price
cant wait to get it and start the switch
it is gonna be a pain i am shure
but there is enof ppl on here that i know will anwser any questions
and help me out
i think i found a set up for a great price
cant wait to get it and start the switch
it is gonna be a pain i am shure
but there is enof ppl on here that i know will anwser any questions
and help me out
jesse- Posts : 447
Join date : 2009-03-18
Age : 45
Location : little falls, mn
Re: dry sump and vac pump
the big AN fittings will bust your A$$. your doen the best thing you can do for a pull truck.JMO. you pases go for what?15 seconds on a 300ft track? yall are hard on shit!
cool40- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Age : 53
Location : on the 1/8 mile dyno
Re: dry sump and vac pump
i know all about an fittings
i got a big shock when i upgraded my fuel system
i thought i would be able to up grade my lines and fittings for around 150.00$
lol it ended up close to 500.00$
i am glade the ol lady is very understanding and eats roman noodles with me lol
i got a big shock when i upgraded my fuel system
i thought i would be able to up grade my lines and fittings for around 150.00$
lol it ended up close to 500.00$
i am glade the ol lady is very understanding and eats roman noodles with me lol
jesse- Posts : 447
Join date : 2009-03-18
Age : 45
Location : little falls, mn
Re: dry sump and vac pump
Another plus is it takes a big load off of the distributor gear and the timing is more stable.
Re: dry sump and vac pump
cool40 wrote:the big AN fittings will bust your A$$. your doen the best thing you can do for a pull truck.JMO. you pases go for what?15 seconds on a 300ft track? yall are hard on shit!
on a logger weve seen 8900 and up on pull trucks for 57 sec, ya there hard on them,lol
BOSS 429- Posts : 2372
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Location : Ill
Re: dry sump and vac pump
8900 thats it lol
some guys around here run 9500+ on some bbc's
it seems that the bbf's dont need to run that kinda rpm's to get the same wheel speed
but i am planning on running this thing to 8000+ i mosty run it around 7800 now
but a few more hund rpms would be nice
some guys around here run 9500+ on some bbc's
it seems that the bbf's dont need to run that kinda rpm's to get the same wheel speed
but i am planning on running this thing to 8000+ i mosty run it around 7800 now
but a few more hund rpms would be nice
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jesse- Posts : 447
Join date : 2009-03-18
Age : 45
Location : little falls, mn
Re: dry sump and vac pump
9500...wow smaller mains, shorter deck maybe...
138- Posts : 1593
Join date : 2009-08-19
Re: dry sump and vac pump
138 wrote:9500...wow smaller mains, shorter deck maybe...
no noneof the above, 8900 is ave .the high side for a few is 10,100 and thats been there for over 30 secs a lot, most of these guys run 9500, depends on the track cond's
BOSS 429- Posts : 2372
Join date : 2009-08-10
Location : Ill
Re: dry sump and vac pump
i saw a ford truck this year @9000 when he left and 10,000+ the most of the run. made me kinds sick.i was ready to hide when he left,THEN he got after it!.lol!
cool40- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: dry sump and vac pump
yea it is crazy the rpm's some guys hit
my class has a 530 cid limit with a single 4500 carb
the class were you see 10,000+rpms
is usually classes that have a 480 cid limit but not much else for rules
so they do a real short stroke with a big bore
my class hit's high enof rpm's as it is
that os why i am thinking about doing a 700 cid+ motor in the next few yrs
those guys seem to hang around that 8k mark
my class has a 530 cid limit with a single 4500 carb
the class were you see 10,000+rpms
is usually classes that have a 480 cid limit but not much else for rules
so they do a real short stroke with a big bore
my class hit's high enof rpm's as it is
that os why i am thinking about doing a 700 cid+ motor in the next few yrs
those guys seem to hang around that 8k mark
jesse- Posts : 447
Join date : 2009-03-18
Age : 45
Location : little falls, mn
Re: dry sump and vac pump
yep,they have a 480"limit.they did have a cast iorn head rule last year too.i think the one i saw had ex514 iron heads on it,runnen sob too!jesse wrote:yea it is crazy the rpm's some guys hit
my class has a 530 cid limit with a single 4500 carb
the class were you see 10,000+rpms
is usually classes that have a 480 cid limit but not much else for rules
so they do a real short stroke with a big bore
my class hit's high enof rpm's as it is
that os why i am thinking about doing a 700 cid+ motor in the next few yrs
those guys seem to hang around that 8k mark
cool40- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Join date : 2009-08-31
Age : 53
Location : on the 1/8 mile dyno
Re: dry sump and vac pump
i do notic that alot of the 480 motors that run 10k+ do fall on there face at the end on a good sticky track
maybe good hp numbers but no so good tourq?
maybe good hp numbers but no so good tourq?
jesse- Posts : 447
Join date : 2009-03-18
Age : 45
Location : little falls, mn
Re: dry sump and vac pump
jesse wrote:yea it is crazy the rpm's some guys hit
my class has a 530 cid limit with a single 4500 carb
the class were you see 10,000+rpms
is usually classes that have a 480 cid limit but not much else for rules
so they do a real short stroke with a big bore
my class hit's high enof rpm's as it is
that os why i am thinking about doing a 700 cid+ motor in the next few yrs
those guys seem to hang around that 8k mark
dont let rpms scare ya, with good parts,and a good tune it works
BOSS 429- Posts : 2372
Join date : 2009-08-10
Location : Ill
Re: dry sump and vac pump
jesse wrote:i do notic that alot of the 480 motors that run 10k+ do fall on there face at the end on a good sticky track
maybe good hp numbers but no so good tourq?
once you pull them out of their power band your done
BOSS 429- Posts : 2372
Join date : 2009-08-10
Location : Ill
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