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Post  jesse October 28th 2011, 2:07 pm

i have been planning on buying a dry sump and vac for my motor the past few yrs
but i keep on spending money on other areas of my truck
i hope to possibly save up enof this winter to do so
my question is
is it a wast of money? and when dose it become a good idea to run one?
my motor see's no higher than 8000 rpms
i currently run a kasse oil pump and header vac's
seems to work well
i do like to idea of a dry sump and vac pump possibly keeping my oil cooler between runs
and would it help the wear and tear on a motor
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Post  dfree383 October 28th 2011, 4:00 pm

IMO they are worth the money and some power.

It comes down to money..... a good system isn't cheap.
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Post  DanH October 28th 2011, 4:05 pm

IMO , money would be best spent on other upgrades .
yes for the cooler oil . how hot is your oil getting ? a good header pan evac can pull enuff vacuum , so little gain over a pump

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Post  jesse October 28th 2011, 6:30 pm

as we all know truck pulling is very hard on motors
oil temp is a big concern for me. some times i gotta make a run back to back within 10 min
or less
and i like the easy oil priming after the truck has been sittin for a few days
i do belive it will help me and help keep the motor in good shape
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Post  138 October 28th 2011, 7:12 pm

For all the pluses, whats another couple grand, some space, and a little extra weight...especialy if you have a nice motor with high dollar parts...

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Post  jesse October 28th 2011, 8:34 pm

i wouldnt say i have a high dollar motor
i good motor thou
and i wanna keep it good
i can sell my wet sump set up and recover some cost
that is the nice thing about a pulling truck
plenty of room to add stuff
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Post  BOSS 429 October 28th 2011, 9:07 pm

the bad.... it adds weight

good, oil lives longer

good, engine runs cooler

bad, tuffer to change oil

bad ,cost

good, prime before every start if you want

good, no reason to warmup engine

good, makes more power, everytime

good, oil stays cleaner

its a pain to switch to a drysump the first time but well worth it, noone ive ever switched to one was sorry, nether will you
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Post  jesse October 28th 2011, 11:19 pm

cool thanxs
i think i found a set up for a great price
cant wait to get it and start the switch
it is gonna be a pain i am shure
but there is enof ppl on here that i know will anwser any questions
and help me out
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Post  138 October 28th 2011, 11:30 pm

What did you get?...

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Post  cool40 October 28th 2011, 11:37 pm

the big AN fittings will bust your A$$. Laughing your doen the best thing you can do for a pull truck.JMO. you pases go for what?15 seconds on a 300ft track? yall are hard on shit! Smile
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Post  jesse October 28th 2011, 11:42 pm

i know all about an fittings
i got a big shock when i upgraded my fuel system
i thought i would be able to up grade my lines and fittings for around 150.00$
lol it ended up close to 500.00$
i am glade the ol lady is very understanding and eats roman noodles with me lol
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Post  Doug Rahn October 29th 2011, 7:27 am

Another plus is it takes a big load off of the distributor gear and the timing is more stable. Wink
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Post  BOSS 429 October 29th 2011, 11:12 am

cool40 wrote:the big AN fittings will bust your A$$. Laughing your doen the best thing you can do for a pull truck.JMO. you pases go for what?15 seconds on a 300ft track? yall are hard on shit! Smile



on a logger weve seen 8900 and up on pull trucks for 57 sec, ya there hard on them,lol
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Post  jesse October 29th 2011, 3:25 pm

8900 thats it lol
some guys around here run 9500+ on some bbc's
it seems that the bbf's dont need to run that kinda rpm's to get the same wheel speed
but i am planning on running this thing to 8000+ i mosty run it around 7800 now
but a few more hund rpms would be nice


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Post  138 October 29th 2011, 4:09 pm

9500...wow smaller mains, shorter deck maybe...

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Post  Lem Evans October 29th 2011, 4:28 pm

More wt. on the front of a 4X4 aint a bad thing.

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Post  BOSS 429 October 29th 2011, 6:08 pm

138 wrote:9500...wow smaller mains, shorter deck maybe...



no noneof the above, 8900 is ave .the high side for a few is 10,100 and thats been there for over 30 secs a lot, most of these guys run 9500, depends on the track cond's
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Post  cool40 October 29th 2011, 10:19 pm

i saw a ford truck this year @9000 when he left and 10,000+ the most of the run. pale made me kinds sick.i was ready to hide when he left,THEN he got after it!.lol!
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Post  jesse October 29th 2011, 10:30 pm

yea it is crazy the rpm's some guys hit
my class has a 530 cid limit with a single 4500 carb
the class were you see 10,000+rpms
is usually classes that have a 480 cid limit but not much else for rules
so they do a real short stroke with a big bore
my class hit's high enof rpm's as it is
that os why i am thinking about doing a 700 cid+ motor in the next few yrs
those guys seem to hang around that 8k mark
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Post  cool40 October 29th 2011, 11:47 pm

jesse wrote:yea it is crazy the rpm's some guys hit
my class has a 530 cid limit with a single 4500 carb
the class were you see 10,000+rpms
is usually classes that have a 480 cid limit but not much else for rules
so they do a real short stroke with a big bore
my class hit's high enof rpm's as it is
that os why i am thinking about doing a 700 cid+ motor in the next few yrs
those guys seem to hang around that 8k mark
yep,they have a 480"limit.they did have a cast iorn head rule last year too.i think the one i saw had ex514 iron heads on it,runnen sob too!
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Post  jesse October 30th 2011, 1:38 am

i do notic that alot of the 480 motors that run 10k+ do fall on there face at the end on a good sticky track
maybe good hp numbers but no so good tourq?
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Post  BOSS 429 October 30th 2011, 12:04 pm

jesse wrote:yea it is crazy the rpm's some guys hit
my class has a 530 cid limit with a single 4500 carb
the class were you see 10,000+rpms
is usually classes that have a 480 cid limit but not much else for rules
so they do a real short stroke with a big bore
my class hit's high enof rpm's as it is
that os why i am thinking about doing a 700 cid+ motor in the next few yrs
those guys seem to hang around that 8k mark

dont let rpms scare ya, with good parts,and a good tune it works
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Post  BOSS 429 October 30th 2011, 12:05 pm

jesse wrote:i do notic that alot of the 480 motors that run 10k+ do fall on there face at the end on a good sticky track
maybe good hp numbers but no so good tourq?

once you pull them out of their power band your done
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