Yet another 460 build......
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Yet another 460 build......
Starting a New 466" BBF build, Hear is what I have So far
DOVE-A Block (needs machined yet and Caps Installed)
Milodon 4 Bolt Caps
460 3.85 stroke crank done by Adney Brown.
Scat 6.605 Hbeams
Arias Domed .030 over Pistons
1/16 Rings
Set of Clevite Bearings. 10/10
ATI Damper
Set of Home Ported Eddie RPM's With SS Valves and Erson Valve Springs.
Heavily Modified Weiand Tunnel Ram and 2 Holley 1050 Dominators.
MSD Distributor
Kaase Oil Pump
Comp Roller Lifters
Comp Roller Rockers
Ford Racing Billet Timing Set
ARP head studs
Custom Solid Roller Cam by Scott Main at Cam Research / MPG (Specs to Follow)
Still need to get a Oil Pan, Probably get one of Lems spec'd Charlies Pans and Pick-up for The Kaase Pump.
Things to do......
1) Get Block Machined and Caps Installed
2) Check Clearences and Mock Everything up.
3) Blend Domes and Fit Rings
4) Balance Rotating Assembly
5) Measure for Pushrods
6) Clean and Assemble
7) Dyno and see what we got.
DOVE-A Block (needs machined yet and Caps Installed)
Milodon 4 Bolt Caps
460 3.85 stroke crank done by Adney Brown.
Scat 6.605 Hbeams
Arias Domed .030 over Pistons
1/16 Rings
Set of Clevite Bearings. 10/10
ATI Damper
Set of Home Ported Eddie RPM's With SS Valves and Erson Valve Springs.
Heavily Modified Weiand Tunnel Ram and 2 Holley 1050 Dominators.
MSD Distributor
Kaase Oil Pump
Comp Roller Lifters
Comp Roller Rockers
Ford Racing Billet Timing Set
ARP head studs
Custom Solid Roller Cam by Scott Main at Cam Research / MPG (Specs to Follow)
Still need to get a Oil Pan, Probably get one of Lems spec'd Charlies Pans and Pick-up for The Kaase Pump.
Things to do......
1) Get Block Machined and Caps Installed
2) Check Clearences and Mock Everything up.
3) Blend Domes and Fit Rings
4) Balance Rotating Assembly
5) Measure for Pushrods
6) Clean and Assemble
7) Dyno and see what we got.
dfree383- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Yet another 460 build......
Sounds good but isn't two 1050's way too much ? or will a hi winding 466'' take it ? i know they say these motors love fuel but damn i cant wait to see the results will you vs. it against a single dommy as well ?
nuclearcobra- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Yet another 460 build......
Going against popular thought, a tunnel ram with a pair of 1150's worked very well on my 470 inch Engine Masters engine; horsepower peaked at 6,600 RPM.
Charlie had a 466 which peaked at about a hundred RPM higher with a pair of 1250's on a tunnel ram.
Both engines over 750 horsepower had well worked P-51 heads and made great torque all the way down to 3,000 RPM.
The only parameter which might have suffered was response.
Charlie had a 466 which peaked at about a hundred RPM higher with a pair of 1250's on a tunnel ram.
Both engines over 750 horsepower had well worked P-51 heads and made great torque all the way down to 3,000 RPM.
The only parameter which might have suffered was response.
Re: Yet another 460 build......
You trying to get some "street cred" back by posting up some Ford stuff rather than the chebbie?
schmitty- Posts : 4538
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Re: Yet another 460 build......
nuclearcobra wrote:Sounds good but isn't two 1050's way too much ? or will a hi winding 466'' take it ? i know they say these motors love fuel but damn i cant wait to see the results will you vs. it against a single dommy as well ?
Expounding on what Randy has already said, we even had the 2 1250's on a 432" Boss 429, it worked and loaded @3000 Rpm but they got weird and hard to tune. I may test it vs. a single 4 haven't decided yet, do have a Mafia and a Ford Racing Single Plane to test, but the testing is a ways off right now.
But to directly answer your question, No 2 1050's are not too much on a specific drag engine.
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Re: Yet another 460 build......
rmcomprandy wrote:Going against popular thought, a tunnel ram with a pair of 1150's worked very well on my 470 inch Engine Masters engine; horsepower peaked at 6,600 RPM.
Charlie had a 466 which peaked at about a hundred RPM higher with a pair of 1250's on a tunnel ram.
Both engines over 750 horsepower had well worked P-51 heads and made great torque all the way down to 3,000 RPM.
The only parameter which might have suffered was response.
On the engine Charlie and I did, the Dominators made in the range of 30 more HP from the hit all the way to peak (if I remember correctly) over a pair of well prepped 4150's....... Charlie was amazed. Keep in mind that was the complete range of the test not just peak.
dfree383- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Yet another 460 build......
Why another engine build? Do you have another car for it or are you just doing some trial and error testing? Will this be the dragster's engine?
jbozzelle- Posts : 3705
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Re: Yet another 460 build......
I like building Engines and playing with them.
dfree383- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Yet another 460 build......
Love builds like this, can we get more details cr ratio, cam spec, top rpm, guess on peak power. Also is it a factory crank or after market.
sg86coupe- Posts : 184
Join date : 2009-08-12
Re: Yet another 460 build......
It will be in the 14:1 range & its a Factory Cast Crank Preped by Adney Brown.
Cam is in the 275ish I 286ish E @ .050 with .800+ lift, don't have the card in front of me, going from memory.
Anybody care to guess on the HP?
Here's a picture of the Intake.
Cam is in the 275ish I 286ish E @ .050 with .800+ lift, don't have the card in front of me, going from memory.
Anybody care to guess on the HP?
Here's a picture of the Intake.
dfree383- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Yet another 460 build......
somebody used alot of rod on that
res0rli9- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Yet another 460 build......
My Guess is 835.
dfree383- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Yet another 460 build......
Get after it cowboy. You da man if you hit that number. BTW I think I've seen that manifold somewhere
schmitty- Posts : 4538
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Re: Yet another 460 build......
I think that intake looks like crap. Dave, you need to send it to me to hide under the hood of my muddy truck
What's the flow on the heads looking like? Knowing your crazy arse, I can see you hitting the 800 mark.
What's the flow on the heads looking like? Knowing your crazy arse, I can see you hitting the 800 mark.
kjett- Posts : 1169
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Re: Yet another 460 build......
I'll look for the flow sheets......
dfree383- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Yet another 460 build......
How long will a stock crank live at that power level?
sg86coupe- Posts : 184
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Re: Yet another 460 build......
sg86coupe wrote: How long will a stock crank live at that power level?
IMO a long time in a drag application. I have one I've used is several builds from 625-750 hp and its still fine.
Lots of overlap and ford does have damn good metal as far as castings go.
dfree383- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Yet another 460 build......
I've been beating the piss out of the stock crank in my 466 with plenty of all motor and nitrous runs. Everything still looks new inside.
kjett- Posts : 1169
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Re: Yet another 460 build......
Waiting for the Pistons to be delivered and on my next trip home I'll get the block to the machine shop.
Carbs are done sitting at a buddy's shop in Chatanooga, Heads are sitting at my place ready to go, cams been delivered, Charlie should have the epoxy done on the intake.
Mostly waiting on me to get a rotation home to get something done.
Carbs are done sitting at a buddy's shop in Chatanooga, Heads are sitting at my place ready to go, cams been delivered, Charlie should have the epoxy done on the intake.
Mostly waiting on me to get a rotation home to get something done.
dfree383- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Re: Yet another 460 build......
Got the pistons and the block is being machined
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Re: Yet another 460 build......
dfree383 wrote:Got the pistons ...
He did what in his cup???? - Mater
lol
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