Re: Mafia intake ?

BigRigTech January 16th 2016, 3:30 pm

Killer piece.

738drvr January 16th 2016, 4:30 pm

rmcomprandy January 17th 2016, 1:53 am

Blake's ported Victor works pretty well ... but, it has been modified considerably.

738drvr January 17th 2016, 2:33 am

Blake would probably want at least 1k to do one for someone else. Not realistic. Great intake. Maybe we can talk Edelbrock into duplicating that one.

windsor January 17th 2016, 3:38 pm

windsor wrote:https://www.facebook.com/groups/691263030975827/permalink/734457596656370/

What about the new "CJ Air Boss" that is being made?

Isn't this the kind of intake y'all are asking about? He's selling them for $599.

738drvr January 17th 2016, 7:06 pm

Don't have Facebook. Please post pictures.

windsor January 17th 2016, 11:44 pm

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I saw this on the Facebook group "Big Block Ford Power" and I believe it's being made by Robert Ed Mclemore out of Oregon.

rmcomprandy January 18th 2016, 1:23 am

It looks real similar to the intake manifold for the Boss Hemi made by Todd Miller of TM Enterprises.

738drvr January 18th 2016, 6:41 pm

How much?

IDT-572 January 18th 2016, 7:11 pm

738drvr wrote:How much?

$599.00 plus shipping $1198.00 for two

738drvr January 18th 2016, 10:27 pm

Blake, please send your intake to profiler so that they can make what you have and then we all will be happy. cheers

windsor January 19th 2016, 12:50 am

So is the new Air Boss intake nothing to get excited about? Question

738drvr January 19th 2016, 10:09 am

Blake?

IDT-572 January 19th 2016, 10:39 am

If I thought they would, I would send it............... If you make the contact and get a favorable response I will do it.

IDT-572 January 19th 2016, 10:44 am

I would change some things about it if I were starting from a new sheet of paper. I just did mine to test an idea.

I would lengthen the four center runners and stand all eight up straighter and equalize the lengths to the rpm needed.

Then our smaller inch engines could run on up to 8000 rpm and make power the bigger heads afford.

IDT-572 January 19th 2016, 10:46 am

windsor wrote:

I saw this on the Facebook group "Big Block Ford Power" and I believe it's being made by Robert Ed Mclemore out of Oregon.

That's a picture of Charlie's Porting shop............... Cool

whitefield January 19th 2016, 11:00 am

IDT-572 wrote:I would change some things about it if I were starting from a new sheet of paper. I just did mine to test an idea.

I would lengthen the four center runners and stand all eight up straighter and equalize the lengths to the rpm needed.

Then our smaller inch engines could run on up to 8000 rpm and make power the bigger heads afford.

Now that is what I am talking about !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gary Blair January 21st 2016, 9:39 am

whitefield wrote:I think I would like to try it! I haven't found anyone that has with all of my research ! I think it would be interesting to see what the diff would be between the Mafia intake and the vic. intake ported and un ported
on a small cubic inch big block 466 to 480 cid.

Ever try a Weiand Tunnel Ram?

Gary Blair January 21st 2016, 9:41 am

Lem Evans wrote:Intake manifolding is like most other componets in an engine...it's application driven. I've had persons inquire about a "mafia" intake for their engine and advised them that they needed a Torker II....not a Victor or the TFS unit.

I'll use J.Y. Kell's 562" P51 engine as an example....it's been four years since it was done and a few things have changed but , I feel it is a valid example.

There was 17 more HP at the two manifold's peak power rpm in favor of the 'mafia' thing. The fully ported victor manifolds [w/o welding etc.] seem to hit a rpm number and immediately fall off.

Randy's engine with the 'mafia':
950.6 HP @ 6,700 rpm
950.6 HP @ 6,800 rpm
951.3 HP @ 6,900 rpm
950.7 HP @ 7,000 rpm

That's .7 Hp from 6,700 rpm to 7,000 rpm...seems the engine is hanging on to it's power.

I have two regrets....
1] The engine was not pulled to 7,200 rpm with the 'mafia thing'.
2] I did not get a copy of the dyno sheet for the best pull with the ported Victor.

Bottom line is that @ 7,000 rpm the ported victor had went back to the house and was down a lot more than 17 hp.

Lem do you have any feed back regards to what the 17 HP is worth ET wise vs the Victor.

I agree it is application driven.

whitefield January 21st 2016, 11:57 am

Gary Blair wrote:
whitefield wrote:I think I would like to try it! I haven't found anyone that has with all of my research ! I think it would be interesting to see what the diff would be between the Mafia intake and the vic. intake ported and un ported
on a small cubic inch big block 466 to 480 cid.

Ever try a Weiand Tunnel Ram?

I really didn't want to run a tunnel ram and never gave it a thought . scratch

I was really more intertained in running a good intake and a single carb for high rpm deal .

I guess the tunnel ram may be an option . Thanks

IDT-572 January 21st 2016, 1:04 pm

Gary Blair wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:Intake manifolding is like most other componets in an engine...it's application driven. I've had persons inquire about a "mafia" intake for their engine and advised them that they needed a Torker II....not a Victor or the TFS unit.

I'll use J.Y. Kell's 562" P51 engine as an example....it's been four years since it was done and a few things have changed but , I feel it is a valid example.

There was 17 more HP at the two manifold's peak power rpm in favor of the 'mafia' thing. The fully ported victor manifolds [w/o welding etc.] seem to hit a rpm number and immediately fall off.

Randy's engine with the 'mafia':
950.6 HP @ 6,700 rpm
950.6 HP @ 6,800 rpm
951.3 HP @ 6,900 rpm
950.7 HP @ 7,000 rpm

That's .7 Hp from 6,700 rpm to 7,000 rpm...seems the engine is hanging on to it's power.

I have two regrets....
1] The engine was not pulled to 7,200 rpm with the 'mafia thing'.
2] I did not get a copy of the dyno sheet for the best pull with the ported Victor.

Bottom line is that @ 7,000 rpm the ported victor had went back to the house and was down a lot more than 17 hp.

Lem do you have any feed back regards to what the 17 HP is worth ET wise vs the Victor.

I agree it is application driven.

Gary, 17 HP is 17 HP, who knows what E.T. difference it would make.............. In perfect back to back runs it is what it is.

The deal is that, It makes more power in every test I have seen done, some more some maybe 2 hp less on engines that can test the boundary of the intakes. This isn't peak number either, it's across the usable rpm range.

Lem is just showing one more thing that adds HP to the engine we all love. Not sales, not horn blowing, just concrete facts.

The Mafia generally peaks about 300 rpm higher than a Victor and brings that hp with it. It moves the tq peak up by that much too.

dfree383 January 21st 2016, 1:17 pm

Gary Blair wrote:
whitefield wrote:I think I would like to try it! I haven't found anyone that has with all of my research ! I think it would be interesting to see what the diff would be between the Mafia intake and the vic. intake ported and un ported
on a small cubic inch big block 466 to 480 cid.

Ever try a Weiand Tunnel Ram?

I have

gmsmkr January 21st 2016, 2:21 pm

[quote="Gary Blair"

Ever try a Weiand Tunnel Ram?[/quote]

What size carbs....4150 or 4500 flange

I'm thinking twin QF 750's tuned with no progressive linkage am I out of ball park here

dfree383 January 21st 2016, 2:38 pm

gmsmkr wrote:[quote="Gary Blair"

Ever try a Weiand Tunnel Ram?

What size carbs....4150 or 4500 flange

I'm thinking twin QF 750's tuned with no progressive linkage am I out of ball park here[/quote]

2x1050-1150 will lay waste to the 2x750 deal. And it won't just be at the peak.

gmsmkr January 21st 2016, 3:09 pm

Thanks dave

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