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Post  tconnection October 1st 2013, 2:21 am

My exhaust smokes some on the pass side. Kinda barely see some at regular idle but see it pretty good when reved on. Driver side collector is rusty and pass side has the smut like oil like residue. Plugs are black on both sides though. Wondering if rings are washed or carb dumping alot of gas. Temp havent seen 200 yet. Its barely gotten to 160 or the temp sender and gauge is no good. I sure hope i dont have to pull this thing and rehone, rering or whatever. Can the carb be to rich from not enough air bleed?
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Post  maverick October 1st 2013, 5:58 pm

Maybe pulling oil past the intake gasket? I'd check there before I pulled it apart.
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Post  samiam October 1st 2013, 7:23 pm

what size motor & carb
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Post  bbf-falcon October 1st 2013, 8:56 pm

Get some pretty good heat into it and give it a chance . 160 is just warm,it needs heat.

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Post  tconnection October 1st 2013, 10:02 pm

Its a 580ci and yea, if the temp sender and guage is working it has only gotten up to 160 or 170. If i had some brakes on it i'll get out in front of the house and get on the trans brake a few times. Im ready to see how fast i can stand to go. Ive been cranking and revving on this thing alot.
As for the intake gasket, i think its been sealing now that i know where the water is seeping from.
As for the residue being on the pass side im assuming the driver side is a little the same but i have to reach up in the collector in the four tubes.
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Post  tconnection October 1st 2013, 10:06 pm

Oh the carb is a qf 1250.

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Post  69F100 October 2nd 2013, 12:01 am

bbf-falcon wrote:Get some pretty good heat into it and give it a chance . 160 is just warm,it needs heat.
X2 you need to get some heat in it I got mine up to 210* then let it sit until it is completely cool down done that a few times I never have seen any smoke out of it from oil. The only time I see smoke is when I fire it up after been sitting from the marvel oil I put in my carb to wash all the alky out of it.
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Post  soupbean October 6th 2013, 9:23 pm

Have you made any passes in the car yet?
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Post  tconnection October 6th 2013, 9:41 pm

No i havent yet. Gotta little more ways to go.

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Post  soupbean October 6th 2013, 9:48 pm

Maybe after a few passes and heat cycles they will come in. After a day of testing at the track, pull your headers and see if the exhaust ports are snotty. I think I have seen it posted on this site before and agree due to personal experience, if they have not seated by then, they most likely are not going to.
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Post  tconnection November 23rd 2013, 11:04 pm

This is what I wiped out of the pass side collector. The driver side is not like this.Any idea what's up with this?Ring seating HPIM0635_zpsbd719214Ring seating HPIM0634_zpsde177319

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Post  kim November 24th 2013, 8:55 am

Good news, that aint oil. That's way fat on gasoline. Bad news is you need to correct it before you do wash the rings out.

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Post  dfree383 November 24th 2013, 9:08 am

what manifold and carb are you running?
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Post  LivermoreDave November 24th 2013, 11:54 am

Take a sniff of the engine's oil. As much idling as the engine has seen and without adequate engine coolant temperature the unburnt gasoline that is displayed in your exhaust may be if not already creating lubrication issues. ALWAYS use a known good carburetor when starting or running in a new engine.

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Post  tconnection November 24th 2013, 8:26 pm

Looks like a mistake i've made from i assume being careless on the matter.The carb was two turns out at one point but after forever getting it crank it didnt like but about 1 and a 1/4 turn. It has 96 in the front and back.
Oh its a 580ci a460 set and a qf 1250. Dam i hope my engine aint f---ed up.
Anymore thoughts? What would you do next?
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Post  IDT-572 November 24th 2013, 8:32 pm

My QFX 1250 is the same way........... I haven't taken time to try to correct it. It is way way way fat right off of transition.

I cleans up on the trans break but down the return road it looks like a diesel.
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Post  tconnection November 24th 2013, 8:33 pm

Yea i can smell fuel in the oil.

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Post  tconnection November 24th 2013, 8:43 pm

How to tell if the rings is washed out?
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Post  c.evans November 24th 2013, 9:03 pm

tconnection wrote:How to tell if the rings is washed out?
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Do a leakdown test.

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Post  tconnection November 25th 2013, 12:12 am

About what should the leak down rate be or just see if it leak down any at all? And that is using a regular compression tester, is it? I

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Post  c.evans November 25th 2013, 2:00 am

tconnection wrote:About what should the leak down rate be or just see if it leak down any at all? And that is using a regular compression tester, is it?  I
No, you buy a leak down tester specifically for this purpose. Read and follow the directions. Run the engine and get it warmed up, then shut it off and test every cylinder for leakage. If the gauge shows over about 12% to 15% leakage, (note some people will say less and some will say more), then LISTEN for where it is leaking.
1. Remove the radiator cap and listen for air coming through the cooling system. That will indicate a blown head gasket.
2. Air coming through the carb will indicate a bent or leaking intake valve.
3. Air coming through the header collector will indicate a bent or leaking exhaust valve.
4. Remove the breather cap from the valve cover, and listen there. Air coming through the crankcase will indicate leakage past the rings.

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Post  tconnection November 25th 2013, 4:11 pm

Thanks

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Post  tconnection November 25th 2013, 10:48 pm

I really dont know what's goin on with this pass side. I havent did a leak down test yet nor tried another carb. Im exspecting the worst so these pistons will be for sale or trade for some a460 4.600's.

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Post  tconnection November 25th 2013, 11:51 pm

If that's way to fat, any idea on how to fix or what to do?
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Post  LivermoreDave November 26th 2013, 9:46 am

FIRST and before anything else change the oil and filter!

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