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Re: 429 issues !!
X=multipledfree383 wrote:You need to invest in a degree kit, some clay and a couple of gaskets. You need to let us know how you are defying the laws of "the shit won't clear".....
I hate to call BS but I have messed with P-51 heads on dished conventional pistons and it would work with a small flat tappet...... But a roller of any size..... The laws of "that shit won't clear" is real......
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linearfab wrote:How thick of a head gasket do u guys normally run .. also why would i get in here to ask for help. Then lie to everyone about what i have . I have a degree wheel. But i dont have a piston stop that will screw into the head i guess i can turn one on the lathe at work this week end. And degree the cam And see . I dont want to tear the heads off unless i know forsure the cam is way off. Which i Was there when it was installed and the dots wher lined up but not while he degreed it . But if it runs decent tomorrow (11.50 -11.60s). Im not gunna touch it .
linearfab- Posts : 72
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Nobody said you were a liar , its just fact that a cam that big will not clear those pistons at all unless something is way off one way or the other , and the dots lining up doesn't mean it was ever degreed , he might have put a regular timing chain on it without the extra keyways in the crank gear for retarding or advancing it. I don't think even the early ''Retarted'' timing sets would even allow a cam that big to come close to clearing .
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linearfab wrote:How thick of a head gasket do u guys normally run .. also why would i get in here to ask for help. Then lie to everyone about what i have . I have a degree wheel. But i dont have a piston stop that will screw into the head i guess i can turn one on the lathe at work this week end. And degree the cam And see . I dont want to tear the heads off unless i know forsure the cam is way off. Which i Was there when it was installed and the dots wher lined up but not while he degreed it . But if it runs decent tomorrow (11.50 -11.60s). Im not gunna touch it .
If the cams retarded 16.5 degrees, it may run a 10.50-10.60 Lol I don't think it is though because it wouldn't get out of it's own way.
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Guess we will find out tonight
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linearfab- Posts : 72
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Ill try and degree it soon so i can show those numbers too so we can scratch our heads some more
linearfab- Posts : 72
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linearfab wrote: Ill try and degree it soon so i can show those numbers too so we can scratch our heads some more
Well I'm with you, if you degree the cam and it's in where it is supposed to be, and the valves are sealed good, I would run it too.
Then explain how it works when I freshen it. sometime down the road.
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11.48. 116mph. Shifting at 7200rpm. Goin through the traps at 6400. .. needs some N02 lol
linearfab- Posts : 72
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Yes a good improvement but still not where it should be , and if it was mine I wouldn't be to bummed about it ,heck the parts are there already I'd just have to find out why now. Maybe the guy who built it really did retard it enough so it didn't hit.
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.nuclearcobra wrote:Yes a good improvement but still not where it should be , and if it was mine I wouldn't be to bummed about it ,heck the parts are there already I'd just have to find out why now. Maybe the guy who built it really did retard it enough so it didn't hit.
Well for it only having. 3:89 rear gears and 1000rpm down. Through the traps . Im not really disapointed
linearfab- Posts : 72
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U guys all said . It had wrong gear. Wrong converter. 100 less cubes. Way to big of a cam . Bent valves. A cam 16 degrees off . Lol runs pretty good considering
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Well then might as well have a blast with it while the tracks still open and maybe over the winter look into it cause its got more in it than that , and like already said put a stroker in that block and hang on , my cobra 2 in my avatar runs 10.81 at 121 mph with a 1.37 60' on a 125 shot of nitrous with a bone stock 5.0 from a 86 Lincoln Lsc I got from the junk yard , it even smokes slightly , I never found out how many miles were on it , anyway I put those jegs/kaase canted valve aluminum heads on it a small comp 292 magnum flat hyd cam 244@.050 and 534 lift , a 650 dp carb , victor jr intake , nothing ported , carb outta the box , it is lighter at 3025 with me in it but still 10.81 , that's why I say you got more in that thing, its worth tearing it down and looking , Call Lem at BF Evans Ford and he'll get ya the right gasket kit this winter. These guys on here have been more than happy to help and steer ya in the right direction like they have for a whole bunch of us in here. Forget low 11's and maybe high 10's you'll be way faster than that
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nuclearcobra wrote:Well then might as well have a blast with it while the tracks still open and maybe over the winter look into it cause its got more in it than that , and like already said put a stroker in that block and hang on , my cobra 2 in my avatar runs 10.81 at 121 mph with a 1.37 60' on a 125 shot of nitrous with a bone stock 5.0 from a 86 Lincoln Lsc I got from the junk yard , it even smokes slightly , I never found out how many miles were on it , anyway I put those jegs/kaase canted valve aluminum heads on it a small comp 292 magnum flat hyd cam 244@.050 and 534 lift , a 650 dp carb , victor jr intake , nothing ported , carb outta the box , it is lighter at 3025 with me in it but still 10.81 , that's why I say you got more in that thing, its worth tearing it down and looking , Call Lem at BF Evans Ford and he'll get ya the right gasket kit this winter. These guys on here have been more than happy to help and steer ya in the right direction like they have for a whole bunch of us in here. Forget low 11's and maybe high 10's you'll be way faster than that
went from 70 jet to a 74 jet in the primaries . went 11.33 117 . picked up over a tenth and 1 mph in just a jet change . 34 degrees timing .. leaving at 1800rpm 1.61 60' . im happy with that for now . I had the cam ground with the intention of running 200hp worth of n02 that's also the reason we have the 3.89s and he tighter converter ... I think on a 200 itll wake up real nice . . ill try n degree the cam this weekend if it checks out ok im gunna spray it . also gotta remember this is in an old 57 fairlane 500 full interior car . damn near 3800 lbs like I said going through the traps 1000 rpm lower than my shift point
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linearfab wrote: U guys all said . It had wrong gear. Wrong converter. 100 less cubes. Way to big of a cam . Bent valves. A cam 16 degrees off . Lol runs pretty good considering
BUMP
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Sounds like it's running great! Spray the house down!
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460bronco wrote:Sounds like it's running great! Spray the house down!
I had a real nice 2 stage NX plate set up for It but I sold it . should hung on to it .
linearfab- Posts : 72
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linearfab wrote:nuclearcobra wrote:Well then might as well have a blast with it while the tracks still open and maybe over the winter look into it cause its got more in it than that , and like already said put a stroker in that block and hang on , my cobra 2 in my avatar runs 10.81 at 121 mph with a 1.37 60' on a 125 shot of nitrous with a bone stock 5.0 from a 86 Lincoln Lsc I got from the junk yard , it even smokes slightly , I never found out how many miles were on it , anyway I put those jegs/kaase canted valve aluminum heads on it a small comp 292 magnum flat hyd cam 244@.050 and 534 lift , a 650 dp carb , victor jr intake , nothing ported , carb outta the box , it is lighter at 3025 with me in it but still 10.81 , that's why I say you got more in that thing, its worth tearing it down and looking , Call Lem at BF Evans Ford and he'll get ya the right gasket kit this winter. These guys on here have been more than happy to help and steer ya in the right direction like they have for a whole bunch of us in here. Forget low 11's and maybe high 10's you'll be way faster than that
went from 70 jet to a 74 jet in the primaries . went 11.33 117 . picked up over a tenth and 1 mph in just a jet change . 34 degrees timing .. leaving at 1800rpm 1.61 60' . im happy with that for now . I had the cam ground with the intention of running 200hp worth of n02 that's also the reason we have the 3.89s and he tighter converter ... I think on a 200 itll wake up real nice . . ill try n degree the cam this weekend if it checks out ok im gunna spray it . also gotta remember this is in an old 57 fairlane 500 full interior car . damn near 3800 lbs like I said going through the traps 1000 rpm lower than my shift point
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I mean really man what the hell are you coming on here whining about your crappy running combo so you say and asking for some opinions and help and have all these guys scratching there heads trying to figure this out for you and you've been mostly negative and argumentative about the answers and act like their picking your combo apart for the hell of it when we were all just trying to figure out what could be wrong as to help you go faster , heck you were even upset with comp and bullet for grinding you the wrong cams , and now finally all of a sudden you remember to tell everybody its a Nos cam and that's why we wanted that converter and rear gear, Like I already said REALLY , I mean go waist somebody else's time next time around, if you would've said all this in the first place instead of 12 pages later , I'm sure your answers would've been its fine put the bottle on it and go.
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nuclearcobra wrote:I mean really man what the hell are you coming on here whining about your crappy running combo so you say and asking for some opinions and help and have all these guys scratching there heads trying to figure this out for you and you've been mostly negative and argumentative about the answers and act like their picking your combo apart for the hell of it when we were all just trying to figure out what could be wrong as to help you go faster , heck you were even upset with comp and bullet for grinding you the wrong cams , and now finally all of a sudden you remember to tell everybody its a Nos cam and that's why we wanted that converter and rear gear, Like I already said REALLY , I mean go waist somebody else's time next time around, if you would've said all this in the first place instead of 12 pages later , I'm sure your answers would've been its fine put the bottle on it and go.
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Its cool man. . Ill take my "mysteryMotor" And my negative attitude else where .
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