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Post  Straubtech June 14th 2016, 10:42 am

cool40 wrote:Is it hurt?

nope. Would have been fun there was some heavy hitters there. Apparently one truck called the BOSS really wanted to see it run.

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Post  Straubtech June 27th 2016, 9:14 am

2 pulls.  2 First place finishes. Put 17 ft on 2nd place, 309ft to 292. Second place was a 650CID Bamber Hemi headed build.


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Post  68formalGT June 27th 2016, 9:25 am

Straubtech wrote:2 pulls.  2 First place finishes.

Awesome!! Good job!!
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Post  68galaxie June 27th 2016, 9:25 am

Sweet!
60K should come in first place a few times.

Cheers
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Post  cool40 June 27th 2016, 1:50 pm

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Post  Scott Foxwell June 29th 2016, 4:23 pm

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Post  Scott Foxwell June 29th 2016, 4:26 pm

windsor wrote:Beautiful piece.

Just wondering why you stayed with a standard distributor instead of a belt driven?  
Since the dist. runs off the front of the cam and this is a dry sump and crank trigger there really isn't a need for a belt drive dist. IMO.

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Post  68formalGT June 29th 2016, 7:26 pm

Scott Foxwell wrote:611 CID Thor Headed Engine Build... - Page 3 13131750_1096223137108168_7169718941380148427_o

Is that the firing order on the front of the intake? 1 5 4 8 6 3 7 2

Good looking rig!
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Post  Scott Foxwell June 29th 2016, 7:34 pm

68formalGT wrote:
Scott Foxwell wrote:611 CID Thor Headed Engine Build... - Page 3 13131750_1096223137108168_7169718941380148427_o

Is that the firing order on the front of the intake? 1 5 4 8 6 3 7 2

Good looking rig!
Yes it is.

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Post  68formalGT June 29th 2016, 7:45 pm

Scott Foxwell wrote:
68formalGT wrote:
Scott Foxwell wrote:611 CID Thor Headed Engine Build... - Page 3 13131750_1096223137108168_7169718941380148427_o

Is that the firing order on the front of the intake? 1 5 4 8 6 3 7 2

Good looking rig!
Yes it is.

When should you go to the flathead firing order?
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Post  whatbumper June 29th 2016, 8:02 pm

We use that firing order on my car. sounds different for sure.

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Post  Lem Evans June 29th 2016, 11:53 pm

The flat head ford firing order is the preferred deal.

1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2

It's what the chevy guys call a 4/7 swap.


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Post  John Myrick June 30th 2016, 6:58 am

Lem Evans wrote:The flat head ford firing order is the preferred deal.

1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2

It's what the chevy guys all a 4/7 swap.

What's the reasoning behind changing the firing order ?
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Post  Scott Foxwell June 30th 2016, 8:39 am

John Myrick wrote:
Lem Evans wrote:The flat head ford firing order is the preferred deal.

1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2

It's what the chevy guys all a 4/7 swap.

What's the reasoning behind changing the firing order ?
Changes crank pulsing and also fuel distribution in the intake. Only of any real benefit when you're trying to build max power at high rpm.

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Post  John Myrick June 30th 2016, 9:44 am

Thanks
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Post  Lem Evans June 30th 2016, 12:53 pm

The crankshafts in very high HP engines seem to have a longer life with the 2/8 swap also.

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Post  XF-66 June 30th 2016, 5:11 pm

Same deal with my Ford 7.3 diesel, well almost...
The 7-8 cylinders firing in sequence would drop line pressure from one bank of the high pressure oil system for the Heui injection system. It would made for an unstable idle, most owners used a balance tube between the heads to equalize the pulsations or pressure drop between the heads for the hydraulically operated injectors.


Real world question....

I build a 700hp BBF, I spray this motor a couple hundred more horsepower, put the engine under load all the time and the engine sees constant 2500-4000 rpm usage with blasts from idle to redline.
In theory the crank has less stress, the fueling or tune becomes much better, all from the cost of switching out a camshaft and moving around some plug wires?
Say I gain no horsepower, does the above engine benefit in anyway from this Flathead firing order change on this non max build, if so how and where? Cap Walk?
Or does it?

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Post  Scott Foxwell June 30th 2016, 6:34 pm

XF-66 wrote:Same deal with my Ford 7.3 diesel, well almost...
The 7-8 cylinders firing in sequence would drop line pressure from one bank of the high pressure oil system for the Heui injection system. It would made for an unstable idle, most owners used a balance tube between the heads to equalize the pulsations or pressure drop between the heads for the hydraulically operated injectors.


Real world question....

I build a 700hp BBF, I spray this motor a couple hundred more horsepower, put the engine under load all the time and the engine sees constant 2500-4000 rpm usage with blasts from idle to redline.
In theory the crank has less stress, the fueling or tune becomes much better, all from the cost of switching out a camshaft and moving around some plug wires?
Say I gain no horsepower, does the above engine benefit in anyway from this Flathead firing order change on this non max build, if so how and where? Cap Walk?
Or does it?
Probably not.

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