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Post  Ranch71460 June 16th 2010, 7:43 am

Finished assembling my short block last night.
Thanks to Lem for the speedy service for my Diamond pistons, rings, Kaase oil pump, P-51 heads and Cometic gaskets.
All sent via USPS... 8 days from Kentucky to Calgary and the heads missed customs so no handling fees or taxes Exclamation cheers
Thanks to Ron at Custom Balancing in Balzac Alberta for balancing, piston pin and bearing clearances, and file fitting my rings.
Just have to get my cam degreed.
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Post  Lem Evans June 16th 2010, 8:40 am

Cool

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Post  dfree383 June 16th 2010, 9:46 am

Nice looking Engine
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Post  bigblockfox468 June 16th 2010, 5:06 pm

Lem Evans wrote:Cool

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Post  D's557BBF June 17th 2010, 7:52 am

Welcome to the P-51 family!! cheers
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Post  Ranch71460 June 17th 2010, 8:16 am

Thanks guys. Lem, how much torque do I use to install the rocker studs?
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Post  Lem Evans June 17th 2010, 9:19 am

65 lbs ft

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Post  ThndrChkn June 17th 2010, 5:32 pm

Good deal Ken. Steppin' it up a notch I see.! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil









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Post  Ranch71460 June 18th 2010, 12:53 am

Thanks Gents Smile
Sooo... ever take one step forward and 2 steps back bounce Question
After I bolted the pan on last night I rotated the crank and it stopped with a thud Shocked pale
The culprit, a rib on the back of the Kaase pump hitting the front crank c'weight:
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Got the heads torqued on... resting my arms now Exclamation Wink
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Post  Larry Williams June 18th 2010, 5:38 am

I noticed there were no piston valve cut outs for the exhaust valves. Is this normal with P51 heads? What v/p clearance did you have?
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Post  Ranch71460 June 18th 2010, 6:36 am

I had the plasticene rolled into 1/4" ropes and the valves barely marked it.
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Post  Nevs June 18th 2010, 7:11 am

Larry Williams wrote:I noticed there were no piston valve cut outs for the exhaust valves. Is this normal with P51 heads? What v/p clearance did you have?

That's normal, no exhaust reliefs needed.
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Post  ThndrChkn June 18th 2010, 10:12 am

Ranch71460 wrote:Thanks Gents Smile
Sooo... ever take one step forward and 2 steps back bounce Question
After I bolted the pan on last night I rotated the crank and it stopped with a thud Shocked pale
The culprit, a rib on the back of the Kaase pump hitting the front crank c'weight:
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YEP! It's not a big deal, but I would think as many that have to modified (all that I know of) they would make a "slight" alteration in the casting. Like I said though, it's not a big deal to just grind it off.





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Post  Ranch71460 June 18th 2010, 6:54 pm

D... Am I now an official member Question
I'll have to change my sig Exclamation Wink
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Post  Nevs June 18th 2010, 10:28 pm

Ranch71460 wrote:D... Am I now an official member Question
I'll have to change my sig Exclamation Wink

I'd say you are officially qualified!.... Cool
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Post  Ranch71460 June 19th 2010, 7:58 am

All ready to degree the cam. I torqued the rocker studs and fabbed a pointer for the degree wheel.
I used thread sealer on the intake rocker studs as the holes protrude into the massive ports.
My pushrods are nice pieces from Smith Brothers of Bend Oregon. With my Comp 1.7 rockers they worked out to be 9.000" intake and 9.100" on the exhaust.
Smith brothers had them in stock Shocked and mailed them the same day I ordered them. cheers
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Post  ThndrChkn June 19th 2010, 11:07 am

Lookin' good Ken. I can't wait to see how it runs.









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Post  Ranch71460 June 19th 2010, 6:47 pm

Thanks Doug.
I degreed the cam this morning and it was at 104 degrees.
The cam card specs 106 degrees and I was able to get the intake centerline there with the 2 degree adjustment on the crank sprocket.
The last motor ran pretty well so this motor should be better based on that alone!
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Post  richter69 June 19th 2010, 7:09 pm

You need a Jomar stud girdle on that thing IMO, give ole Lem another shout.................and some .100 longer studs wouldn't hurt.
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Post  Ranch71460 June 19th 2010, 7:22 pm

Those studs are the ones Lem sent with the heads Shocked Exclamation
The cam is only .663/.663 @ .050 with 262/262 degree duration and 110 lsa.
Stud girdle will be next year... the stack of green is gettin' down to the copper shade No
Aspirations for next year: Lem's design cam, stud girdles, Charlies porting, QFT carb and a Danny Bee cheers
AAANNNND... if enough sponsorship comes in... since I'm already .060 over, I might as well go to 552 cu. in. eh Exclamation Wink
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Post  richter69 June 19th 2010, 7:24 pm

Ranch71460 wrote:Those studs are the ones Lem sent with the heads Shocked Exclamation
The cam is only .663/.663 @ .050 with 262/262 degree duration and 110 lsa.
Stud girdle will be next year... the stack of green is gettin' down to the copper shade No
Aspirations for next year: Lem's design cam, stud girdles, Charlies porting, QFT carb and a Danny Bee cheers
AAANNNND... if enough sponsorship comes in... since I'm already .060 over, I might as well go to 552 cu. in. eh Exclamation Wink


studs are prolly fine...........but I wouldn't run it without a girdle......but thats just the A+ know it all racer in me
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Post  Ranch71460 June 24th 2010, 7:50 am

Motor is ready to drop in.
I clearanced the frame stands to clear the bolt heads I installed in the motor mounts for safety.
I used the old paint on the bolt heads to locate the holes trick Exclamation Wink
I used a couple dabs of high temp silicone and piece of 2x2x1/4" angle iron to glue the header gaskets to the heads for install Idea .
Found out the valve covers need clearancing for #4 and #5 exhaust valve springs Exclamation .
I need to install my autolite 3934 plugs, what gap should I use? The motor is 12:1 and I burn a 15%, 94 octane methanol fuel.
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Post  Lem Evans June 24th 2010, 9:32 am

The P51 package comes with 2" studs......should be good to go.

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Post  The Pope June 24th 2010, 4:32 pm

Looking good there!!!!
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Post  D's557BBF June 24th 2010, 7:19 pm

Ranch71460 wrote:D... Am I now an official member Question
I'll have to change my sig Exclamation Wink

yes you are and get that sig changed!! looking good by the way. Keep up the great work cheers
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