my new motor
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my new motor
hey guy;s need some help. my motor is a
dive 2 bolt main block
scat 4.15 cast crank
6.8 I beam rods
Icon 28cc dish pistons
lunati voodoo solid roller 255-263 @0.050 .675 lift on a 110
port a sonic 4150
ported A429 heads
questions are
what size carb
header tube size
stall?????
car is a 86 coupe with 3.55 gears 29 19,5 hooisers street/ strip 2900# toy powerglide
i need D&D;s number for headers and motor plates
this is my play toy i live about 8 miles from the local 1/8 mile and want to drive it. nitrous is gonna be used after the car is sorted out.
thanks Craig
dive 2 bolt main block
scat 4.15 cast crank
6.8 I beam rods
Icon 28cc dish pistons
lunati voodoo solid roller 255-263 @0.050 .675 lift on a 110
port a sonic 4150
ported A429 heads
questions are
what size carb
header tube size
stall?????
car is a 86 coupe with 3.55 gears 29 19,5 hooisers street/ strip 2900# toy powerglide
i need D&D;s number for headers and motor plates
this is my play toy i live about 8 miles from the local 1/8 mile and want to drive it. nitrous is gonna be used after the car is sorted out.
thanks Craig
86 coupe- Posts : 119
Join date : 2009-12-15
Age : 60
Location : guyton ga
Re: my new motor
If it was mine, it'd have a 1050 Dom. with 2" headers.
maverick- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Join date : 2009-08-06
Age : 72
Re: my new motor
Be careful with the stall. If your going to drive it around town keep in mind any rpm under the actual stall the converter will be slipping. That's what will heat up the trans fluid and burn up a tranny. So choose wisely. Will this be more for street or strip?
bb429power- Posts : 3129
Join date : 2010-02-13
Age : 30
Location : Michigan
Re: my new motor
Put some more rear gear in it ... !
2" headers ... !
4,500 stall for best ET ... !
IF you intend to drive it around, (not just to and from the track), then go lower with the stall.
2" headers ... !
4,500 stall for best ET ... !
IF you intend to drive it around, (not just to and from the track), then go lower with the stall.
Re: my new motor
get you a victor it will be like night and day from the Port o sonic it is the worst manifold of all the single planes....
Randy
Randy
the Coug- Posts : 3055
Join date : 2008-12-02
Re: my new motor
Randy,I completely disagree w/you. My first 472 roller motor,I went from a Portosonic w/4500 base to a Victor and I could barely tell any difference.Different combo's it might be a diff. but I would'nt say Great. The PS is not that bad of a unit imo.
bbf-falcon- Posts : 8995
Join date : 2008-12-03
Location : Jackson, Ohio
Re: my new motor
bbf-falcon wrote:Randy,I completely disagree w/you. My first 472 roller motor,I went from a Portosonic w/4500 base to a Victor and I could barely tell any difference.Different combo's it might be a diff. but I would'nt say Great. The PS is not that bad of a unit imo.
The one I ran was junk...............way back in the day.........mighta been my HeRo skills were not tapped into yet..............
richter69- Posts : 13649
Join date : 2008-12-02
Age : 53
Location : In the winners circle
Re: my new motor
Rick why do you think I worked my A$$ off to get a victory built ? cuz the Port o sonic was crap at best! The Blue thunder dominator duel plane worked almost as good as the port o sinic. I called and begged Vic Edelbrock for a couple months to concider building us a manifold, He kept saying it is gonna cost $3000 for the molds so I told him Damint go for it I will buy them and we will make a deal 60% 40%...... Well you know how that turned out........ But at least we have a few manifold choices now.... and as far as I am concerned a Port O sonic is a good Irrigation intake and nothing else....
I went to Holley, Wiend, Blue Thunder, and Edelbrock..... Hell if I could have figured a way to get the molds and have them finished I would have done them myself...... after about 6 months I got a call from edelbrocks shop forman (Schmitty) and was informed the were in full production and over 6 months behind on back orders.... Imagine that?
Randy
I went to Holley, Wiend, Blue Thunder, and Edelbrock..... Hell if I could have figured a way to get the molds and have them finished I would have done them myself...... after about 6 months I got a call from edelbrocks shop forman (Schmitty) and was informed the were in full production and over 6 months behind on back orders.... Imagine that?
Randy
the Coug- Posts : 3055
Join date : 2008-12-02
Re: my new motor
thanks for the info, am running the port o sonic for now but hoping for a new trick flow dommy when they go into production. this motor is my version of feet firsts motor that ran low 9's.
86 coupe- Posts : 119
Join date : 2009-12-15
Age : 60
Location : guyton ga
Re: my new motor
Call Lem, You may be able to get on pretty quick?
dfree383- BBF CONTRIBUTOR
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Join date : 2009-07-09
Location : Home Wif Da Wife.....
Re: my new motor
If your gonna spray it you might as well build it that way now rather than do it agian later. leave the 3.55 gear, 4200 - 4500 convertor (I would error on the low side w/ spray), 2 inch primary headers MINIMUM 3.5 inch collector, I would give Patrick a call at Pro Systems, we have had great results with his 1170.As everyone else has mentioned the Victor intake would help a bunch, but if your patiently awaiting the Trickflow there is no reason to spend the money twice.86 coupe wrote:hey guy;s need some help. my motor is a
dive 2 bolt main block
scat 4.15 cast crank
6.8 I beam rods
Icon 28cc dish pistons
lunati voodoo solid roller 255-263 @0.050 .675 lift on a 110
port a sonic 4150
ported A429 heads
questions are
what size carb
header tube size
stall?????
car is a 86 coupe with 3.55 gears 29 19,5 hooisers street/ strip 2900# toy powerglide
i need D&D;s number for headers and motor plates
this is my play toy i live about 8 miles from the local 1/8 mile and want to drive it. nitrous is gonna be used after the car is sorted out.
thanks Craig
Re: my new motor
Barney wrote:If your gonna spray it you might as well build it that way now rather than do it agian later. leave the 3.55 gear, 4200 - 4500 convertor (I would error on the low side w/ spray), 2 inch primary headers MINIMUM 3.5 inch collector, I would give Patrick a call at Pro Systems, we have had great results with his 1170.As everyone else has mentioned the Victor intake would help a bunch, but if your patiently awaiting the Trickflow there is no reason to spend the money twice.86 coupe wrote:hey guy;s need some help. my motor is a
dive 2 bolt main block
scat 4.15 cast crank
6.8 I beam rods
Icon 28cc dish pistons
lunati voodoo solid roller 255-263 @0.050 .675 lift on a 110
port a sonic 4150
ported A429 heads
questions are
what size carb
header tube size
stall?????
car is a 86 coupe with 3.55 gears 29 19,5 hooisers street/ strip 2900# toy powerglide
i need D&D;s number for headers and motor plates
this is my play toy i live about 8 miles from the local 1/8 mile and want to drive it. nitrous is gonna be used after the car is sorted out.
thanks Craig
Having a 3.55/1 rear gear with a 29 inch tall tire at 6,500 RPM finish line engine speed, (dictated by his camshaft), is about 150 MPH and I am pretty sure this combination will NEVER get that fast in a 1/4 mile much less the 1/8 mile strip he intends to run.
He NEEDS more gear ... nitrous or not. Unless he intends to use the "less gear ratio" as a crutch at the starting line for traction. With a Powerglide, I don't think that will be a problem.
Re: my new motor
Mines been 150 and its milder than his, so never say never.rmcomprandy wrote:Barney wrote:If your gonna spray it you might as well build it that way now rather than do it agian later. leave the 3.55 gear, 4200 - 4500 convertor (I would error on the low side w/ spray), 2 inch primary headers MINIMUM 3.5 inch collector, I would give Patrick a call at Pro Systems, we have had great results with his 1170.As everyone else has mentioned the Victor intake would help a bunch, but if your patiently awaiting the Trickflow there is no reason to spend the money twice.86 coupe wrote:hey guy;s need some help. my motor is a
dive 2 bolt main block
scat 4.15 cast crank
6.8 I beam rods
Icon 28cc dish pistons
lunati voodoo solid roller 255-263 @0.050 .675 lift on a 110
port a sonic 4150
ported A429 heads
questions are
what size carb
header tube size
stall?????
car is a 86 coupe with 3.55 gears 29 19,5 hooisers street/ strip 2900# toy powerglide
i need D&D;s number for headers and motor plates
this is my play toy i live about 8 miles from the local 1/8 mile and want to drive it. nitrous is gonna be used after the car is sorted out.
thanks Craig
Having a 3.55/1 rear gear with a 29 inch tall tire at 6,500 RPM finish line engine speed, (dictated by his camshaft), is about 150 MPH and I am pretty sure this combination will NEVER get that fast in a 1/4 mile much less the 1/8 mile strip he intends to run.
He NEEDS more gear ... nitrous or not. Unless he intends to use the "less gear ratio" as a crutch at the starting line for traction. With a Powerglide, I don't think that will be a problem.
Re: my new motor
Barney wrote:Mines been 150 and its milder than his, so never say never. More gear is worse if you cant hook it since it takes longer for the car to catch up with the wheel speed, ask me how I know.rmcomprandy wrote:Barney wrote:If your gonna spray it you might as well build it that way now rather than do it agian later. leave the 3.55 gear, 4200 - 4500 convertor (I would error on the low side w/ spray), 2 inch primary headers MINIMUM 3.5 inch collector, I would give Patrick a call at Pro Systems, we have had great results with his 1170.As everyone else has mentioned the Victor intake would help a bunch, but if your patiently awaiting the Trickflow there is no reason to spend the money twice.86 coupe wrote:hey guy;s need some help. my motor is a
dive 2 bolt main block
scat 4.15 cast crank
6.8 I beam rods
Icon 28cc dish pistons
lunati voodoo solid roller 255-263 @0.050 .675 lift on a 110
port a sonic 4150
ported A429 heads
questions are
what size carb
header tube size
stall?????
car is a 86 coupe with 3.55 gears 29 19,5 hooisers street/ strip 2900# toy powerglide
i need D&D;s number for headers and motor plates
this is my play toy i live about 8 miles from the local 1/8 mile and want to drive it. nitrous is gonna be used after the car is sorted out.
thanks Craig
Having a 3.55/1 rear gear with a 29 inch tall tire at 6,500 RPM finish line engine speed, (dictated by his camshaft), is about 150 MPH and I am pretty sure this combination will NEVER get that fast in a 1/4 mile much less the 1/8 mile strip he intends to run.
He NEEDS more gear ... nitrous or not. Unless he intends to use the "less gear ratio" as a crutch at the starting line for traction. With a Powerglide, I don't think that will be a problem.
Re: my new motor
the Coug wrote:Rick why do you think I worked my A$$ off to get a victory built ? cuz the Port o sonic was crap at best! The Blue thunder dominator duel plane worked almost as good as the port o sinic. I called and begged Vic Edelbrock for a couple months to concider building us a manifold, He kept saying it is gonna cost $3000 for the molds so I told him Damint go for it I will buy them and we will make a deal 60% 40%...... Well you know how that turned out........ But at least we have a few manifold choices now.... and as far as I am concerned a Port O sonic is a good Irrigation intake and nothing else....
I went to Holley, Wiend, Blue Thunder, and Edelbrock..... Hell if I could have figured a way to get the molds and have them finished I would have done them myself...... after about 6 months I got a call from edelbrocks shop forman (Schmitty) and was informed the were in full production and over 6 months behind on back orders.... Imagine that?
Randy
raise hell with MSD to make a crank trigger dist. again that fits a victor...
138- Posts : 1593
Join date : 2009-08-19
Re: my new motor
I run a Port O Sonic on my FE and Had one on are 460. Both ran damn good. Now we are stepping up to A heads and have a new Trick flow intake for the 460.
Here's the 460 intake
My FE intake.
Here's the 460 intake
My FE intake.
Re: my new motor
Barney wrote:Mines been 150 and its milder than his, so never say never.rmcomprandy wrote:Barney wrote:If your gonna spray it you might as well build it that way now rather than do it agian later. leave the 3.55 gear, 4200 - 4500 convertor (I would error on the low side w/ spray), 2 inch primary headers MINIMUM 3.5 inch collector, I would give Patrick a call at Pro Systems, we have had great results with his 1170.As everyone else has mentioned the Victor intake would help a bunch, but if your patiently awaiting the Trickflow there is no reason to spend the money twice.86 coupe wrote:hey guy;s need some help. my motor is a
dive 2 bolt main block
scat 4.15 cast crank
6.8 I beam rods
Icon 28cc dish pistons
lunati voodoo solid roller 255-263 @0.050 .675 lift on a 110
port a sonic 4150
ported A429 heads
questions are
what size carb
header tube size
stall?????
car is a 86 coupe with 3.55 gears 29 19,5 hooisers street/ strip 2900# toy powerglide
i need D&D;s number for headers and motor plates
this is my play toy i live about 8 miles from the local 1/8 mile and want to drive it. nitrous is gonna be used after the car is sorted out.
thanks Craig
Having a 3.55/1 rear gear with a 29 inch tall tire at 6,500 RPM finish line engine speed, (dictated by his camshaft), is about 150 MPH and I am pretty sure this combination will NEVER get that fast in a 1/4 mile much less the 1/8 mile strip he intends to run.
He NEEDS more gear ... nitrous or not. Unless he intends to use the "less gear ratio" as a crutch at the starting line for traction. With a Powerglide, I don't think that will be a problem.
WoW ... over 150 MPH in the 1/4 mile is well over 760 horsepower and faster than 9 flat with 2,900 pounds of total weight.
For a street Mustang which has trouble with tire spin - must be one "bad a$$" car ...
Re: my new motor
WoW ... over 150 MPH in the 1/4 mile is well over 760 horsepower and faster than 9 flat with 2,900 pounds of total weight.
For a street Mustang which has trouble with tire spin - must be one "bad a$$" car ...[/quote]
We have a D0VE headed 508 that goes 141 N/A with stock suspension "street car" and a 28x10.5 tire also. 760 horsepower on spray is hardly "BAD A$$", its actually pretty easy especially when it can be done N/A without too much trouble. 86 Coupes combo should make well over 650 hp N/A put some spray on top of it, and yes keep the 3.55 gear. This is my opinion take it for what its worth. Im just going off of personal experience, not years in the dyno room.
Re: my new motor
thanks Barney, and you too Randy i may put more gear in it later, but with the cleveland and 175 horse n20 we ran 138 1/4 w/3.73's so i hope the 3.55 will help the bigger motor.
86 coupe- Posts : 119
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Location : guyton ga
Re: my new motor
My deal goes 154-155 on motor in the 1/4 w/ 3.73 @ 3200 lbs
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Yeah bur you have a real motor. mine is a street piece, although i think it will 60 foot in the 1.30 on spray.
86 coupe- Posts : 119
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That's some funny stuff .my mustang went 6.28 with a port-o-sonic on it ...060 over stock stroke , DOVE-C headed at 3045 LBS ..went to the victor and ran 6.24..I'd say hardly worth the change?the Coug wrote:get you a victor it will be like night and day from the Port o sonic it is the worst manifold of all the single planes....
Randy
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bruno wrote:My deal goes 154-155 on motor in the 1/4 w/ 3.73 @ 3200 lbs
That's 920-930 hp.......N/A??? Are you sure???
feetfirst- Posts : 139
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Re: my new motor
feetfirst wrote:bruno wrote:My deal goes 154-155 on motor in the 1/4 w/ 3.73 @ 3200 lbs
That's 920-930 hp.......N/A??? Are you sure???
pretty sure .... it was in Nov ( the air was great)when it made that pass 5.80 @ 122 and 9.01 at 154.55 on motor , the car weighs around 2960 and i was around 230 is at the time ..the same day when i sprayed it it ran a 9.06 at 160.xx on a 73 jet ....... we will be weighing the car again in a couple of weeks for these next 2 events we have to be at 3250 .... i will get an exact number for you feet in a couple of weeks
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