Any certain valve cover fit the P51 better than others?
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Any certain valve cover fit the P51 better than others?
Looking to see what valve cover will fit the P51 head without having to grind too much.
How short can one be and still clear a stud girdle?
How short can one be and still clear a stud girdle?
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Re: Any certain valve cover fit the P51 better than others?
The Ford Racing Aluminum ones fit fine.
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Using a "BeeHive" valve spring on the exhaust side will cure all the fitment problems with most of the valve covers out there.
It is the end exhaust valve spring retainer which causes the problems with interference.
It is the end exhaust valve spring retainer which causes the problems with interference.
Re: Any certain valve cover fit the P51 better than others?
Do the sheetmetal ones offer more clearance, or would I need to dimple those?
Are the FRPP ones the shortest I can go with?
Are the FRPP ones the shortest I can go with?
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Like Randy said, it is the end exhaust valve spring and retainer that causes the problem,,,,on both the P-51 heads and the SCJ heads. The beehive springs are a viable option, however with the big valve springs I have had to grind for clearance on the Ford Racing valve covers on Randy Moore's P-51, Bobby Shrewsberry's P-51, Dave Freelander's P-51 (he just forgot), my SCJ headed engine and I don't know how many others. Now then having said that, you are going to have to grind for clearance on just about any valve cover you use, including Blue Thunder, Price Motorsports (a bunch), and TFS I think. You will need the tall valve covers to clear the stud girdle.
Hope this helps,
Charlie
Hope this helps,
Charlie
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Are sheetmetal covers an alternative to the grinding on cast covers?
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looks like i'll be grinding on my valve covers..............
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OOPs..... thats with a 1.625 spring @ about 2" installed height.
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The longer the installed height is, the worst the problem gets. I had to grind on mine. One I had to weld, the other was OK.
Cheers Colin.
P.S They are Ford Racing, tall cast ones.
Cheers Colin.
P.S They are Ford Racing, tall cast ones.
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Re: Any certain valve cover fit the P51 better than others?
I would think that a set like I have would not be an issue.jbozzelle wrote:Are sheetmetal covers an alternative to the grinding on cast covers?
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schmitty wrote:I would think that a set like I have would not be an issue.jbozzelle wrote:Are sheetmetal covers an alternative to the grinding on cast covers?
I've got a new set like that sitting in my dining room. They wouldn't mind a new home......
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Mike Barker(Goin Postal) has these spacers on his engine.They are cheaper than a new set of covers and have a nice touch .imo.
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From the ones I have tried, the "Australian Muscle Parts" sheet metal prototype covers fit better than most.
I know Mike Fielder did a lot of investigation before he started having them mass made.
www.australianmuscleparts.com.au
I know Mike Fielder did a lot of investigation before he started having them mass made.
www.australianmuscleparts.com.au
I have these same spacres
bbf-falcon wrote:Mike Barker(Goin Postal) has these spacers on his engine.They are cheaper than a new set of covers and have a nice touch .imo.
on my super cj's and they clear with stock valve covers I'd post a pic but don't know how on this forum
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57custom,
Keep in mind, he (John) asked about clearance with stud girdles. Are you running stud girdles?
Charlie
Keep in mind, he (John) asked about clearance with stud girdles. Are you running stud girdles?
Charlie
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c.evans wrote:57custom,
Keep in mind, he (John) asked about clearance with stud girdles. Are you running stud girdles?
Charlie
Yup I have Jomar stud girdles on my engine. If I knew how to post pics on this forum I would have posted a picture of the engine with the valve covers on.
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57custom wrote:c.evans wrote:57custom,
Keep in mind, he (John) asked about clearance with stud girdles. Are you running stud girdles?
Charlie
Yup I have Jomar stud girdles on my engine. If I knew how to post pics on this forum I would have posted a picture of the engine with the valve covers on.
Forgot to mention I had to cut out the baffles right below the oil filler and EGR holes on the stock covers.
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I would think that a set like I have would not be an issue.
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Hey Rob!, What are you doing with my covers..
Btw, who makes theese? I bought mine used, like everything else.....
Regards.
Al
I would think that a set like I have would not be an issue.
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Hey Rob!, What are you doing with my covers..
Btw, who makes theese? I bought mine used, like everything else.....
Regards.
Al
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Not sure on the manufacturer, I purchased these from Bret Powell at PFC Engines. I've sure got no complaints on them.
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Hate to keep beating a dead horse but is anybody using a set of the Moroso sheetmetals on some P51s?
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The girdle won't fit under pressed Moroso covers on P-51's, 100%. Colin
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just get you some of them Ford Racing deals and grind on um a bit................
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Re: Any certain valve cover fit the P51 better than others?
bbf-falcon wrote:Mike Barker(Goin Postal) has these spacers on his engine.They are cheaper than a new set of covers and have a nice touch .imo.
Does anyone know where I can get a set of these spacers?
Biggi
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Re: Any certain valve cover fit the P51 better than others?
I think Price Motorsports has those for sale?
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I have the Trick Flow sheetmetal valve covers with the felpro double gasket with thin metal inbetween.Also Jomar stud girdle,with no issues.Call Jet Boat Bob he did mine.Great looking covers.They should be on Trick Flow website.Michael
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