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Post  56Tbird September 4th 2009, 3:26 pm

Last weekend I noticed my oil pressure dropping when it was hot after a run. I figured it was just needing changed, so I put it off until today ,But when I took my Systems1 filter apart I found a little bit of metal and brass ,so it's coming out and find where that came from. I can't take a chance of kicking a rod or something? These filters are great, I'd recommend everyone with a engine they care much about to have one. I hope this saves me from really messing mine up. It's soo hard to park one when it's running good, but hopefully I'll see what the cause is before it becomes a major problem affraid
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Post  IDT-572 September 4th 2009, 3:40 pm

Time to pull the pan pale
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Post  72mav September 4th 2009, 3:54 pm

You know what they say when its running better than normal Razz Wink

Honestly hope nothing is wrong though. Hate see anyone scatter their sh-t.
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Post  maverick September 4th 2009, 4:08 pm

IDT-572 wrote:Time to pull the pan pale

Yup. I'd pop off a couple of rod caps for a look.
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Post  bbf-falcon September 4th 2009, 11:46 pm

Make sure to give the Dizzy gear a look Dan,see what the wear is looking like. Glad ya caught it in time cheers

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Post  ThndrChkn September 5th 2009, 12:46 am

Hope it's nothin' serious Dan-O... Keep us posted...








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Post  bbf-falcon September 6th 2009, 7:33 pm

Find anything yet Dano?

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Post  Old blue Racin Team September 6th 2009, 11:55 pm

bbf-falcon wrote:Find anything yet Dano?

X2, hope it aint to bad
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Post  Frank Merkl September 7th 2009, 8:25 pm

what valve spring shims are you useing ?as the ones from Comp cams seem to shed a little ,especally the .015" ones
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Post  72mav September 7th 2009, 11:03 pm

How much is the pressure dropping from normal? Like Rick sounds like a dizzy gear, the shavings. But pressure would sound like a crank or rod bearing to me.
Time to get dirty.
Keep us posted Dano.
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Post  56Tbird September 8th 2009, 10:01 am

I've got it out and inspecting it. From what I can see ,it looks like a broken inner intake valve spring is all that's wrong. I haven't pulled the caps ,and probably won't right now. The rods all have good end play and no flaking. I can't see any flaking on the mains either. I know it may be a little different under the caps , but everyone I've ever seen that had any bearing issues I could see where the babbet on the bearing started to roll out from under the bearings and it would take away the end play. It was down to 25 lbs. at idle hot ,but I've got the pump set at 45lbs. warm. I think I'll just change the spring and the oil and put it back together and bump the pump up about 20 lbs. and see what it acts like?I just want to run it a few more weekends, if it makes it , I'll tear it all the way down and see how it's wearing. affraid
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Post  res0rli9 September 8th 2009, 10:23 am

Good.... now get back to work Very Happy

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Post  bbf-falcon September 8th 2009, 10:30 am

Good Luck Dano Smile

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Post  Greg_P September 8th 2009, 10:30 am

Why would you not pull the main caps? Seems like peace of mind would require an inspection while you're there.

What did the inside of the oil pump look like?

Also, idle oil pressure is not controlled by the bypass spring. So, installing a new spring will not get your idle oil pressure back unless the old spring ws WAY broken.

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Post  56Tbird September 8th 2009, 12:35 pm

I was talking about replacing the valve spring Hugh. I've got an external pump. I did pull some caps and everything's fine. The only trash I found was on the head in the oil return part of it. The pan's pretty clean and gonna be spotless when I put it back on. It was very little metal I found in the filter, just trying to be cautious and not loose any parts here. I guess I was too cautious ,but I'd rather know what's going on ,then to take a chance on it.
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Post  Greg_P September 8th 2009, 12:40 pm

Gotcha.

Still seems strange to lose pressure like that without having something go away like the pump, bearings, or even filter or pickup.

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Post  maverick September 8th 2009, 12:45 pm

Greg_P wrote:Gotcha.

Still seems strange to lose pressure like that without having something go away like the pump, bearings, or even filter or pickup.

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Post  56Tbird September 8th 2009, 1:25 pm

I know ,but I'm kinda wondering if the oil wasn't breaking down now? I run Alky and it hasn't been changed since the 2nd week of June? It still looked decent. It ran fine ,just was dropping pressure when it was hoy after a run. I'll have more to report after friday night hopefully...good news!!
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Post  D. Sea September 8th 2009, 3:13 pm

Dan,

Glad it wasn't anything serious. Keep us posted.
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Post  56Tbird September 8th 2009, 6:44 pm

I took the screen out of the pan and found part a clip for the valve seal ,I think that's where all the metal came from. I feel pretty confident that it'll be ok now. I'll keep my fingers crossed anyway affraid
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Post  White Buffalo September 8th 2009, 11:57 pm

Have you done a Used Oil Analysis (UOA) on your engine before? The reason I ask is that it is a cost effective ($20) way to find out if there is any excessive engine wear or if the oil has sheared down. Here is an example, pulled off of Jon Faubion's (Richter69) Mustang. It's an easy way to see if something is going wrong.

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The only reason the lead was excessive was because of the leaded fuel Jon used. You can see how well the engine is wearing, the contaminants in the fluid and how well the oil is holding up.
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Post  56Tbird September 10th 2009, 1:17 pm

I got this thing fired up today and everything seems good. I'll keep my fingers crossed. It's got 65lbs at idle cold and jumps to 85lbs when I crack the throttle. Sounds good anyway,time will tell. affraid cheers
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Post  Old blue Racin Team September 10th 2009, 1:21 pm

thats good dan, hope every thang is good to go, keep us posted
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Post  D. Sea September 10th 2009, 2:57 pm

Old blue Racin Team wrote:thats good dan, hope every thang is good to go, keep us posted

Ditto... Keeping my fingers crossed for ya...
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Post  richter69 September 10th 2009, 3:03 pm

Rich, I think Dan uses pro comp oil he gets of ebay....................lol


Thats the pressure i see with my set up Dan, 60 hot idling and jumps to 80 touching the throttle.
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