DOVE-C V/S EDELBROCK PERFORMER 60679

HELLO I HAVE A QUESTION , HOW MUCH BETTER ARE THE EDELBROCK PERFORMER HEADS OVER STOCK DOVE-C HEADS AND WOULD I BE BETTER OFF TO WORK THE IRON HEADS RATHER THAN INVEST IN THESE EDELBROCKS FOR A 500 HP RANGE STREET BIG BLOCK. THANKS

D0VE's are really good for the HP level you are looking for, you will have to work the heads a little in the bowl area and smooth them out a bit then have bigger valves installed, I think for about half the price of the Eddy's they will do what you want/need them to do, but if you have the money to spend then do so but you don't need them to make 500 HP, good luck with your build.

butterbean wrote:D0VE's are really good for the HP level you are looking for, you will have to work the heads a little in the bowl area and smooth them out a bit then have bigger valves installed, I think for about half the price of the Eddy's they will do what you want/need them to do, but if you have the money to spend then do so but you don't need them to make 500 HP, good luck with your build.

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The Eddys will wipe the Doves all over the street, out if the box vs stock and the exhaust ports on the Eddys is a whole bunch better.

They will. Tell us more.

dfree383 wrote:The Eddys will wipe the Doves all over the street, out if the box vs stock and the exhaust ports on the Eddys is a whole bunch better.

We know that ,but at his HP level the d0ve will work fine imo.

Dollar per hp I'm not convinced. Especially if you can handle a doe grinder and have some time.

Barney wrote:Dollar per hp I'm not convinced.  Especially if you can handle a doe grinder and have some time.

"If you can" is the big variable..... "If you Can't" and have to pay someone.... That's makes it a whole different game. Most quality port work in iron ain't cheap and by the time you pay for parts and the balance of reconditioning it's damn near a wash and you have a worse exhaust port and 50 more pounds on the nose.

But I do understand where your coming from the old iron can be made to run.

When I was racing my 66 cyclone I swapped my cj heads for a set of the edelbrock cj heads .My iron CJs had some bowl blending and exhaust port work .All done by myself .Nothing really extensive on the exhaust ports just blending and smoothing all those lumps and bumps .My iron heads had been milled .030.The edelbrock heads were new out of the box and come to find had a 77 cc combustion chamber .My best time with the iron heads was 12.25 don't remember the mph with the edelbrocks it went 11.96 .This was an in car head swap nothing was changed but the heads .My iron CJ heads were probably 70ccs just guessing because I never had them checked like I did the edelbrocks .I wish more info was available about porting my edelbrock heads .I have searched but haven't found much .M engine was 466 10.0 compression a 236_246 hyd. cam 830 carb 3000 stall 4.10 gears and 3700 lbs on pump gas reaaly good street strip engine .If loosing some weight is a factor for you consider the edelbrock or any other alum. head ford heads are HEAVY .Doug

I THINK IM PROBABLY GONNA GO WITH THE EDELBROCKS BEING THAT I HAVE NO CLUE ON WORKING THE IRONS , SOUNDS LIKE I WOULD BE BETTER OFF ESPECIALY IF I WANTED TO GO ABOVE 500 I WOULD BE COVERED. THANKS FOR THE HELP

Yep if you have to pay for the work it can get pricey on iron. It is fun getting D0VES right though.

a buddy of mine had a 1964 galaxie with a 460. it was .030 over w/ a performer rpm flat tappet cam, victor intake and stock size valved doves that had the bump in the exhaust ground out, 2 inch crites headers and 850 holley. it also had a C6 w/ 3500 stall and 4.11 gears and ran 11.70's/11.80's all day. weighed about 3700 lbs. the doves did pretty good!

Look up Scottys site, the mad porter. Clean them up yourself. Heck, eddys dont flow any better stock than what you can do after rubbing on your doves.

I went 8.78 @153 with a stock 460 rotating assembly and a set of D0VES AT 3100 pounds and a single plate. Lots of time in them though. Funner than my 600 inch a headed deal.

The Question that just baffles the Sh*t out of me is why the F^$K did they make all these sorry A$$ aluminum heads when the Doves are so Freakin much better? so why not just Pay somebody to do 200+ hours of port work so you can run some Heavy a$$ed Iron heads?

One of the best benefits of the Edlebrocks is them being Aluminum. I found that detonation really becomes a pain in the butt running Iron heads. The exhaust on the edelbrocks IMO is the best thing. I've learned over the years to pay more attention to the limitations on the exhaust ports. A high flowing intake does you know good if you can't get the exhaust out of the chamber.

jones wrote: One of the best benefits of the Edlebrocks is them being Aluminum. I found that detonation really becomes a pain in the butt running Iron heads. The exhaust on the edelbrocks IMO is the best thing. I've learned over the years to pay more attention to the limitations on the exhaust ports. A high flowing intake does you know good if you can't get the exhaust out of the chamber.

Thats what duration is for Jones.....

the Coug wrote:The Question that just baffles the Sh*t out of me is why the F^$K did they make all these sorry A$$ aluminum heads when the Doves are so Freakin much better? so why not just Pay somebody to do 200+ hours of port work so you can run some Heavy a$$ed Iron heads?

^^^^ Looks like the WiFi is back on in the trailer park.

Barney wrote:quote]
^^^^ Looks like the WiFi is back on in the trailer park.

you trying to say you still live in a trailer park and you just upgraded to wifi?

welcome to the 20th century maybe one day you will find out modern heads......

nobody said that are the best, they could be used in a 500 hp build with little work done on them, I had a pare and they worked fine for my combo but I to stepped up to a better head for more HP in my new build.

Barney wrote:I went 8.78 @153 with a stock 460 rotating assembly and a set of D0VES AT 3100 pounds and a single plate. Lots of time in them though. Funner than my 600 inch a headed deal.

With a bunch of juice and a lot of hours in them.

the Coug wrote:

Barney wrote:quote]
^^^^ Looks like the WiFi is back on in the trailer park.

you trying to say you still live in a trailer park and you just upgraded to wifi?

welcome to the 20th century maybe one day you will find out modern heads......

Coug..... Your hemroids acting up?

the Coug wrote:The Question that just baffles the Sh*t out of me is why the F^$K did they make all these sorry A$$ aluminum heads when the Doves are so Freakin much better? so why not just Pay somebody to do 200+ hours of port work so you can run some Heavy a$$ed Iron heads?

With EQUAL preparation the Eddy's will be WAY on top.

Comparing the performance level of a completely ported and prepared D0VE head to an "out of the box" Edelbrock is really kind of preposterous.

dfree383 wrote:

Barney wrote:I went 8.78 @153 with a stock 460 rotating assembly and a set of D0VES AT 3100 pounds and a single plate. Lots of time in them though. Funner than my 600 inch a headed deal.

With a bunch of juice and a lot of hours in them.

without a doubt on both accounts.

the Coug wrote:

Barney wrote:quote]
^^^^ Looks like the WiFi is back on in the trailer park.

you trying to say you still live in a trailer park and you just upgraded to wifi?

welcome to the 20th century maybe one day you will find out modern heads......

that's funny. You sayin my a heads are old? Eddy are space age I hear.