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Post  windsor December 2nd 2014, 4:13 pm

TFS Streets....................................anyone?
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Post  dfree383 December 2nd 2014, 4:32 pm

68galaxie wrote:LOL, you make quite an argument,

However the OP has said nothing about going to 700 hp later.
If I wanted a 500 hp 460, and already had the iron heads I would just use them.

You can make all kinds of arguments to support your position that aluminum is better.
Aluminum certainly does have better properties.

Does that mean one can't make 500 hp economically with iron?

The Eddy aluminum would be my last choice for an aluminum head.

I've messed with plenty of iron heads.... Yes they can make decent power...... But they are freaking heavy and a PITA to port!

Face it, this guy is the same as the rest of us.... He will want more later!

The Eddys may not be your choice, but they work just fine if you want a stock valve location aluminum head. Just cause they aren't pushed doesn't mean they are junk.


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Post  85bigblockfox December 2nd 2014, 4:40 pm

781's are better.....
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Post  dfree383 December 2nd 2014, 4:51 pm

85bigblockfox wrote:781's are better.....

Not better than 782's........ king
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Post  Barney December 2nd 2014, 4:53 pm

schmitty wrote:
Barney wrote:Thanks for editing my post almighty admin. This place gets better and better.
I hope this isn't going to turn into a Furgeson deal, where there is rioting because someone did their job.
burn this bitch down... there wasn't anything in that post that required editing. Coug knows what he is.
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Post  richter69 December 2nd 2014, 8:35 pm

update....
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Post  Lem Evans December 2nd 2014, 8:41 pm

richter69 wrote:update....

C8VE heads are the 'shit'.....better than a460 I hear.

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Post  BOSS 429 December 2nd 2014, 8:44 pm

68galaxie wrote:The OP was wanting a 500 HP street engine.
A DOVE-C head with a little port work (easily done) can easily make 500+ HP on a 460 or larger displacement.
There are many references and pictures showing iron head porting - http://www.reincarnation-automotive.com/

The Eddy heads out of the box can also make 500 HP. The standard Eddy valves, springs, retainers etc. are certainly not race quality parts - however, would "do" for a street type engine.
New low cost valves, springs and retainers for the iron heads will not break the bank either.

If the OP was asking for 700 HP, then I would suggest an aluminum offering. In any case the factory EDDY's would require a complete upgrade of valves, springs and retainers anyhow.
Iron CJ heads have made north of 800 HP also!

Lets not turn this forum into a pissing match - like the old FE forum becomes (alot these days).

There are many opinions, and many ways to get to 500 hp Smile

Cheers


wheres the like button for this one /\ ?
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Post  yellowhorse7 December 2nd 2014, 8:56 pm

Lem Evans wrote:
richter69 wrote:update....

C8VE heads are the 'shit'.....better than a460 I hear.

C's too!
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Post  Lem Evans December 2nd 2014, 9:01 pm

C9's are waay better than C460s...

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Post  BOSS 429 December 2nd 2014, 9:02 pm

dfree383 wrote:
BOSS 429 wrote:
yellowhorse7 wrote:
BOSS 429 wrote:NOTHING WRONG WITH AN EDDY HEAD, but a DOVE head can run good also


Bullshit Laughing




lol lol lol




well ,with that /\ said let me ask this, Whats the best et anyone has ran with an eddy head @ under 510 ci in a 3200 lbs car with 1 carb,and no power adder ?
I made 800 hp @ 466" with a set of Edelbrocks. But that was with 2 carbs..... Single is probably 775ish.

Bob at D&D had a number of guys running very fast cars with them.

Face it the Edelbrock stuff is superior.... I don't care how good you think you are with iron Doves


I never said I was good with DOVE heads, 800 with 2 carbs? who asked about 2 carbs? I said 1 carb under 510ci.          PLEASE reread my last post
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Post  BOSS 429 December 2nd 2014, 9:04 pm

1971tjet wrote:HELLO I HAVE A QUESTION , HOW MUCH BETTER ARE THE EDELBROCK PERFORMER HEADS OVER STOCK DOVE-C HEADS AND WOULD I BE BETTER OFF TO WORK THE IRON HEADS RATHER THAN INVEST IN THESE EDELBROCKS FOR A 500 HP RANGE STREET BIG BLOCK. THANKS




Like I tried to say for 500hp nothing wrong with the DOVE heads
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Post  QtrWarrior December 2nd 2014, 9:26 pm

Freelander... Cool your jets...

You want to stir the pot.. go to the bar and grille... clown
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Post  QtrWarrior December 2nd 2014, 9:32 pm

68galaxie wrote:The OP was wanting a 500 HP street engine.
A DOVE-C head with a little port work (easily done) can easily make 500+ HP on a 460 or larger displacement.
There are many references and pictures showing iron head porting - http://www.reincarnation-automotive.com/

The Eddy heads out of the box can also make 500 HP. The standard Eddy valves, springs, retainers etc. are certainly not race quality parts - however, would "do" for a street type engine.
New low cost valves, springs and retainers for the iron heads will not break the bank either.

If the OP was asking for 700 HP, then I would suggest an aluminum offering. In any case the factory EDDY's would require a complete upgrade of valves, springs and retainers anyhow.
Iron CJ heads have made north of 800 HP also!

Lets not turn this forum into a pissing match - like the old FE forum becomes (alot these days).

There are many opinions, and many ways to get to 500 hp Smile

Cheers

Exactly... More then 1 way to skin a cat...
OP was asking for opinions..
Can't we give him choices and why with out the "name calling" ??
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Post  Barney December 2nd 2014, 10:14 pm

Let's keep it rated g. Don't want anyone getting excited or entertained.
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Post  QtrWarrior December 2nd 2014, 10:20 pm

Barney wrote:Let's keep it rated g. Don't want anyone getting excited or entertained.

Didn't say we had to keep it that clean....

But some of what was on this thread wasn't needed..
Like Dave's post he deleted...
It's ok to disagree and argue your point...But damn....
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Post  Mustang-junky December 2nd 2014, 10:54 pm

Just my opinion, but if you are going to spend some money why not get something that would allow you to grow in the future? How long with 500hp be enough? The weight savings, and having all new parts, all pluses for Edelbrock heads.

Unless I missed it, the OP made no mention of being on a tight budget. My Eddies flow over 400cfm, They should keep a smile on my face for a while.

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Post  windsor December 2nd 2014, 11:01 pm

windsor wrote:TFS Streets....................................anyone?

Question
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Post  Barney December 2nd 2014, 11:15 pm

It's really up to you. Any will get it done. I like Tfs streets. If you go aluminum you got a lot of choices.
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Post  the Coug December 2nd 2014, 11:16 pm

windsor wrote:
windsor wrote:TFS Streets....................................anyone?

Question


I like the streets better than edlelbrocks in the right hands they can flow in the wrong hands they don't
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Post  richter69 December 2nd 2014, 11:27 pm

bump for the best read in a long time....
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Post  gmsmkr December 2nd 2014, 11:50 pm

Mustang-junky wrote:Just my opinion, but if you are going to spend some money why not get something that would allow you to grow in the future?  How long with 500hp be enough?  The weight savings, and having all new parts, all pluses for Edelbrock heads.

Unless I missed it, the OP made no mention of being on a tight budget.  My Eddies flow over 400cfm, They should keep a smile on my face for a while.

Jess

X2 if you want to stay with stock valve layout Exclamation
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Post  Barney December 3rd 2014, 12:59 am

I'm putting max effort Thors on my next 500 HP street build. If I ever want to upgrade I should be OK.
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Post  jones December 3rd 2014, 1:17 am

Mustang-junky wrote:Just my opinion, but if you are going to spend some money why not get something that would allow you to grow in the future?  How long with 500hp be enough?  The weight savings, and having all new parts, all pluses for Edelbrock heads.

Unless I missed it, the OP made no mention of being on a tight budget.  My Eddies flow over 400cfm, They should keep a smile on my face for a while.

Jess

Exactly!!

This thread reminds me of one thing I have noticed about this forum. It seems people tend to automatically assume that they know what everyone else ought to have! What if the man has a line on a set of used edlebrock heads for a smoking deal? It's not like he mentioned his budget or even that he had a budget.

Let's get back to our roots and start giving people information and letting them decide rather than telling them what they ought to do! Share what you know. Tell him exactly what it would take to make a solid 500hp with D0ves.

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Post  dfree383 December 3rd 2014, 5:17 am

QtrWarrior wrote:
Barney wrote:Let's keep it rated g. Don't want anyone getting excited or entertained.

Didn't say we had to keep it that clean....

But some of what was on this thread wasn't needed..
Like Dave's post he deleted...
It's ok to disagree and argue your point...But damn....

I like it up the arse too! lol!
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