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Post  '65 T-BOLT January 22nd 2010, 11:45 pm

well HAPPY BIRTHDAY Jones!
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Post  jones January 23rd 2010, 12:04 am

The driver side headers will bolt up but the passanger side needs to tuck-in about 2" and up 2". Don't think a spacer would work, it was a shot in the dark that they would fit since they where made to face the opposite direction in a Mustang.

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Post  jones January 23rd 2010, 12:04 am

'65 T-BOLT wrote:well HAPPY BIRTHDAY Jones!


Thanks!

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Post  jones January 24th 2010, 1:44 am

Whew. all is good now! I invited my brother over and we brainstormed. We ended up taking the motor mounts off and swaping sides. Had to redrill one hole on each mount, by doing this it moved the engine back 1-3/4" and we added two washers under each mount. Now the oil pan, headers and oil filter will fit. I'll post pis tomorrow.

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Post  bruno January 24th 2010, 9:19 am

its looking good Jones.... it looks like in the pics those headers should work pretty well once you swap those mounts ...... cant wait till its done , its gonna be a sleeper Very Happy

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Post  jones January 25th 2010, 9:21 pm

We managed to get the oil pan some clearance but I'm going to have to come up with some way to get to the front sump oil plug.
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Swaping the mounts moved the engine back enough that with a little trimming I will be able to use an oil filter without any typ of adapter.
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This is a look at the engine mounts that I have swapped sides. had to redrill a hole on each mount and going to swap the washers for a piece of 3/16" plate. The plate will have more surface area instead of the washers.
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Post  res0rli9 January 25th 2010, 9:45 pm

drill a hole in the crossmember to get to the plug, it wont hurt anythang

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Post  droppedf100 January 26th 2010, 11:50 pm

Are those motor mounts custom? Im guessing the headers are for a fox body? Looks good in there. We have the 90 degree adapter on my dads 95 and the frame still needed to be cut. Its nice you got it the filter to line up with the stock hole. Do all aftermarker rear sump pans have to dual drain plugs?
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Post  racerk_2000 January 27th 2010, 5:35 am

Coming along nicely, and looking good.

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Post  jones January 27th 2010, 9:24 am

droppedf100 wrote:Are those motor mounts custom? Im guessing the headers are for a fox body? Looks good in there. We have the 90 degree adapter on my dads 95 and the frame still needed to be cut. Its nice you got it the filter to line up with the stock hole. Do all aftermarker rear sump pans have to dual drain plugs?

The engine mounts are a off the shelf item from Summit. I can't remember the manufactures name off the top of my head but it a common company.
Yes, the headers are mid-length headers for a Mustang from D&D. The driverside header was modified a little for a turbo build in a fox body. (Which would have been on the passanger side on a Mustang turbo build I was doing.) I would like to see if I can find a set of 2" or 2-1/8" Mustang headers that would fit down the road.
From looking around at the different aftermarket pans it appears that only the fox body oil pans like I have reguire the second drain plug. The oil pans that you are suppose to use for the trucks only have one sump.

Edit: They use to make the mounts, although it looks like they have went to a different design. 4225 is the Trans Dapt part number.

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Post  D. Sea January 27th 2010, 1:08 pm

Josh,

Your progess is looking great! If/When you look into rewiring the truck. Check with Trick Cable and Switch and get a switch panel unless you are planning on rewiring the truck and using all your stock switches.

Just and idea for ya' Idea
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Post  jones January 27th 2010, 3:26 pm

I want to pull all of the factory wiring and rewire the truck. I can't stand having a wiring glitch and not knowing what is wrong.

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Post  jbozzelle January 31st 2010, 6:45 pm

I'm diggin' the mount for the centrifugal supercharger on the driver's side!!!

Can you drill a hole in the frame for the drain plug? Or is the I-beam bracket under there? Can you swap to the truck pan?

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Post  jones January 31st 2010, 10:19 pm

jbozzelle wrote:I'm diggin' the mount for the centrifugal supercharger on the driver's side!!!

Can you drill a hole in the frame for the drain plug? Or is the I-beam bracket under there? Can you swap to the truck pan?

I wish that was a centrifugal mount!! It's really just a stock powersteering and ac bracket off a F250.

I can cut a hole in the cross member and make some type of extension.

PS. I checked the dimensions and the pan I have now is 6-1/4 deep in that area. Which is the same as a Canton truck pan.

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Post  jones February 3rd 2010, 1:54 pm

I got to figure out what all fittings, adapters and line I need now.

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Post  jones February 5th 2010, 5:47 pm

Finished the transmission crossmember.
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Post  '65 T-BOLT February 5th 2010, 6:18 pm

very nice jones! the truck is coming together!
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Post  jones February 5th 2010, 6:30 pm

Thanks,

I'll probably come back and put a center gusset on the two mounts.

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Post  Greg_P February 7th 2010, 4:18 pm

jones wrote:Thanks,

I'll probably come back and put a center gusset on the two mounts.

I'm glad you mentioned that, Josh, as I was thinking the same thing....but I don't want to sound like a know it all or anything.

Since you brought it up, let me add this......that angle looks pretty thin. You might get some better strength with TWO gussets per side, and place them near where the bolts go through. It would really suck to have that angle bend around a single gusset and cause you some problems later.

With the length of that crossmember, there's likely to be some pretty high shear loads on the bolts at the frame, so keeping that angle stiff will help to minimize that shear.

I did something very similar to my Torino when I was modifying the crossmember and mounting to fit the E4OD in there. Double gussets out of 3/16" steel and 1/2" bolts just in case.

It's good to see your build coming along so quick, man!

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Post  jones February 7th 2010, 11:31 pm

I am going to use 3/16 for gussets and the bolts are 1/4-20 grade 8 as long as I make sure the bolts stay tight I should be good. The center mount will allow the transmission to rock side to side, so that should help some. I figure the only chance of the mounts bending is if I hit the wall or really torque the frame. Which hopefully the mount would bend instead of breaking the case.

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Post  70bbftorino February 9th 2010, 9:24 am

a rewire would be nice, that has my vote. piles of crunchy EFI wiring laying around not in use seems annoying the instant a motor like that goes in there.........as you said; so many more things to hunt for gremlins in. you can get all new stuff with new fuses and labeled wires allowing for that fuel pump and all the new things you'd like to run on that motor......by the time you run juice to the new stuff and figure out the turn signals you'll be swearing and kicking your new truck--

nice truck though, always likes those with a little dropped ride height and some 18-20" rims (not ghetto, just fillin the wells)
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Post  jones February 9th 2010, 1:07 pm

I don't even what to think about wiring! I guess next step is to gut the interior and face the demon. I guess I'll just have to cut all the lighting connectors off and reuse them. I hope I can keep all my power accesories.

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Post  dfree383 February 9th 2010, 1:33 pm

IMO Don't just start cutting / wholesale removing if you want to keep all the power stuff, keep the factory harness and remove what you dont need. Then wire the Engine / Ignition as its own new Harness.
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Post  jones February 9th 2010, 2:44 pm

I know the factory gauges won't work because it has to have an ECU. I got the headlights working but the turn signals won't work nor the hazard lights. If I could just figure out why the windows and turnsignals won't work than I'll just add auxilary switches for the ignition and starter. But nothing on the steering column works.

I need to find a real good wiring diagram for a 92 F150.

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Post  Mark Miller February 10th 2010, 12:26 am

Jones,

The F-150's must be different than the Mustangs,at least the older Mustangs.I know my 89 Mustang my Fuel Gauge and Voltmeter still work and i took the stock computer out of it.It was a 4 cylinder car i just removed the old Computer wires kept the fuel and voltmeter.All my lights and turn signals and horn and wipers still work fine.I just had to wire the MSD box after that,i don't know if this helps since it sounds like the trucks are wired different.

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