piston coatings

have you guys used the piston coatings on the domes and skirts -if so what are your feelings

is it a waist of money or does it really help

and please if you dont know -dont involve your self in it thanks

badnotch wrote:have you guys used the piston coatings on the domes and skirts -if so what are your feelings

is it a waist of money or does it really help

I guess it depends upon "what do YOU consider to be a waste of money"...?
Crown coatings will tend to keep the oil cooler and more heat in the combustion chamber.
Skirt coatings are usually sacrificial but, will help to better control piston skirt side loading frictional horsepower.
At 700 horsepower this will mean a bit cooler running oil and about .05 seconds at the race track so, YOU have to decide as to whether it is worth the money.

I'd agree with Randy. For a max effort deal every little bit counts, for a budget build, probably not worth it as the money would go further in other areas.

I've designed my skirts to do their job in a particular manner.

I would prefer that ya'll not gum up the works by coating them.

I would prefer that ya'll not gum up the works by coating them.[/quote]

and who would you be mark oneil

badnotch wrote:and who would you be mark oneil

PROBE INDUSTRIES

PROBE INDUSTRIES- not to sound like a fool - but who is probe industries ?

badnotch wrote:PROBE INDUSTRIES- not to sound like a fool - but who is probe industries ?

A piston manufacurer.............. Probe Pistons


http://www.probeindustries.com/

badnotch wrote:and who would you be mark oneil

If you are incapable of copying my name correctly.........

badnotch wrote:and who would you be mark oneil

Yes

I'll be here all week.......

Mark O'Neal wrote:I'll be here all week.......

Mark I have used alot of your pistons and still have 3 sets for use now they work great.... Good products...


Randy

Mark/Probe has been involved with the past two BBF Bash races.....thx Mark

And makes some of the best shelf pistons for the $$$$ in the industry IMO

badnotch wrote:and who would you be mark oneil

Why would you be asking such an involved question concerning miniscule improvements when you know very little about or, of who you are inquiring ... ? AND, you're even a LAZY typist to boot.

I like helping people but, I just hate it when I waste my time.

But remember his sub-title says "professional engine builders only". We've used lots of Probe stuff too. We have quite a few bracket engines running right now with those pistons and RPM crank and rods.

I'm not a professional but build a lot of engines. On our turbo motors we use pistons that are hard anodized but don't coat them.

Why would you be asking such an involved question concerning miniscule improvements when you know very little about or, of who you are inquiring ... ? AND, you're even a LAZY typist to boot.

I like helping people but, I just hate it when I waste my time.

did you you read the title ? im not here to start a pissing match- ive never heard of probe industries- so freaking what - i run diamond and have ran cp as well 2 of the best pistons manf on the planet

i was asking a ? who he was probe doesnt like to use coatings thats cool -its his opinion - thats why i was asking the ? and if you remember - the ? was directed at

pro engine builders not yo yo builders

Could someone put up the popcorn smiley, thanx.

rmcomprandy - read the title -then read all of it

Gerry,

What does your engine builder say ? ...you know the same guy that told you about your "BLACK DEATH" issue and then to find out its your lifters ..... I would think that if you are building a street engine ( due to the fact you cant get a car to go down the track straight) your yo yo engine builder would look more into the rings/ring tension and hone job before you recieve another "BLACK DEATH" build......... food for thought !!!


Carry on gents

badnotch wrote:rmcomprandy - read the title -then read all of it

Randy you want butter on yours? I'm making a fresh batch........ Mark, what about you?....

ONLY professional racecar DRIVERS should be allowed to ASK QUESTIONS.................f-in' capslocK..............I AINT RETYPIN' THAT SHYt...................

Gery
your comment, professional engine builders only-no pop corn makers

just what do you call Professionals?
I am not going to bust your chops, But most of these guys have built more engines than you can count. I was just curious what you call a professional?

I know Randy, myself, Dfree, Adney, and countless others have tried coatings. Unless you are looking for every inth of power it is not for you....Plus the cost for what you are doing is alot for such meanial gain for a street engine....
I know I have tried GL Moly coated bearing, Pistons, wrist pins, crank journals, and even cylinder combustion chambers.....cam journals, roller lifters, Valves and rockers and springs....another words anything that could be coated I have had coated to help to make a no friction engine.....

for your Street engine I would not even bother sence you say you are not going to race any more.... Matter a fact you should just put a lx1 in it then you can get mileage and don't have to worry about it getting out of hand....



Have a nice day
Randy